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I've been looking for a new job as a software developer. The huge majority of job listings I see in my area are hybrid or remote. I just had an introductory phone call with Vizio (which didn't specify the location type in the job listing). The recruiter told me that the job was fully on-site, which I told her was a deal breaker for me.

It makes me wonder how many other people back out after hearing that the job is on-site. And it makes me wonder why this wasn't specified in the job description. I assume most people only want hybrid or remote jobs these days, right?

Anyways I was just wondering how many of you guys apply for on-site IT jobs? Hybrid is so much better, I don't know why people would apply for on-site jobs unless they have no other options.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (3 children)

From what I've heard, most people that are for in office work like having the separation between work and home.

That being said, I think most folks want remote work or at least remote hybrid. It just makes more sense especially for me. I live far from my office (140 mile drive roundtrip), and working 3 days a week from home has been a god send.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I did notice that the only people not opting for WFH/hybrid at my last job were all the married-with-kids types who hated being around their family and used work as an escape. It was really sad to see lol

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

There’s a psychological stress with work that can take some time to slough off.

Some people don’t want to log out of work and be grumpy or distracted during family time.

That being said having a process or system as a habit to denote work/home is a good alternative.

A 10 minute walk, a change of clothes, or some song you play, anything that creates a mental delineation. So the annoyance from that way too long meeting asking why something isn’t done (4 hours a day giving out status updates isn’t helping) doesn’t come out on the family.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

That's understandable but like... you could go to a coffee shop or literally rent office space nearby to where you live - it doesn't have to be all one way or the other. Anyway, if they truly do enjoy being surrounded by people then I don't want to knock their totally valid preferences, just to say that there are other ways.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (4 children)

There's also a huge value to people working in the same space.

Random conversations solve a lot of problems.

And I'm someone that finds being in an office around people constantly to be exhausting. I just recognize the value.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

You can replicate that remotely. I've had days where 2-3 people joined a call to share something and then kept that call in the background for hours, chatting about random things while working.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

I can chat with someone for hours on end, but I also like using my own toilet, and having access to a tea, snack, etc.

For me, what blocks having random conversations is having 1-3 hours of status updates daily - it doesn't leave much leftover to do the work especially when my firm declaration that it was going to take twice as long as someone else estimated (and then sure enough it did, at minimum, and maybe taking 10x) is ignored. That would block conversations regardless?

Anyway, the conversations are the content, but them being present physically is only the medium, so WFH does not need to block them, and if anything can help facilitate them e.g. working one in-between other meetings whereas the time taken to physically walk over would have been prohibitive.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Random conversations solve a lot of problems.

Trends indicate no. The odds of that vs the costs of the distractions - because Mike, I swear to god, you keep clicking that pen and I'm gonna find a new home for it - don't make it a winning choice.

In 2002 we solved this with an open skype call where everyone was muted. Convos were easy to start (alt-space to unmute and start talking), which created some distraction but not like Larry and his goddamned sad cowboy music.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

because Mike, I swear to god, you keep clicking that pen and I'm gonna find a new home for it

Hahahahah, oh man, I hear ya!

Seriously, I'm as anti-social as they come, but I've learned the value of people being in the same space. It's the way we're wired, and no, calls/video/virtual stuff is no replacement.

And I've had a million random conversations between calls/meetings that have solved many issues, or provided opportunity for improving relationships, etc. These conversations just don't happen when you're remote - I say this as someone who's worked hybrid since the 90's - there's no replacement for being in the same space. Again, I'm someone that finds being in the office exhausting - I'd rather be remote.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

There's also a huge value to people working in the same space.

Random conversations solve a lot of problems.

If only we had decent VR headsets that were comfortable to wear all day I wouldn't mind replicating that in a "virtual office"

Unfortunately, even Apple wasn't able to solve the comfortability problem.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not wanting to work in a crowded home has nothing to do with disliking your family. Kids are loud. They run around the house. They watch TV with the volume set too high. They have excited calls with their friends. Many home builders skimp on noise insulation for interior walls.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

From my open office experience, it is often not better with colleagues. A lot of noise, distractions, useless conversations. That is not as bad as kids, but this is why I always dreamt to WFH. I will always be grateful to the person who under cooked that bat in 2019.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

My brain definitely focuses better with environmental cues. I mean, I can work just about anywhere, but if I'm not in the mood, then having the environmental cues displaces alternatives. Subjectively, I feel more productive at work. Never had a really bad commute, so I was never motivated to try to set up a 'work-only' space at home, but I'd only do a 70 mile one-way drive for very special occasions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

most people that are for in office work like having the separation between work and home.

My apartment offers wework-style glass cube space, as well as (totally unused) conference space on the 30th floor. Big conference TV, kitchenette, global supra high-back seating (good-not-amazing) and panoramic river views.