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Here's my mildly diplomatic answer that'd probably get tossed:
It's not only price. I don't agree that spotify has the right to a monopoly in music sales. Neither shall youtube have it for videos or adobe for image editing.
There is a market imbalance and the only protest that's left for me is to pirate content.
I would ask how it is theft when I’m prevented from buying media from other countries. I can’t buy Romanian movies or Swedish books. It’s illegal for me to give them money. Where is the theft here?
Why?
Why what? They don’t want my money, and I can clone it without harming anyone. Is it theft?
Why can’t you give them money legally?
I just can’t. They are European countries and when I try to create an account to buy something, I am informed that I can’t create an account from another country (which should be illegal nowadays but they don’t seem to care).
There are laws to allow someone buying Romanian stuff from France, but they don’t care. I know it’s a niche thing, but if they refuse customers, they can’t complain about piracy.
Weird, but I agree, if they won’t take your money fuck em
Haha, yeah, that's why I said it's my diplomatic answer, as it doesn't utterly reject a capitalist framework.
Neither does my statement reject capitalism. I reject the monopolies. There is not really a competitive market. It may or should be a natural monopoly but there are means to produce competitive markets but they are not yet implemented.
Capitalism does not exclusively mean monopolies. Recap: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism
Unrestrained capitalism will always trend into monopoly. Capitalist-first democracies espousing "free market" historically never properly regulate their markets, resulting in this state, and the rhetoric all tends to place the market above the people, hence copyright being perverted into arcane lifetime-plus ownership schemes with fingers into everything. Meanwhile, culture is commodified and restricted from those who create it.
I know we aren't arguing different viewpoints; only choices of words.
Sigh... Back to my FOSS life without AAA gaming with my son in another country...
It would be easier to pass by 'what had been argued as" qualifier in front of "justified." I'd also add something about people who discriminate against different socioeconomic groups as being uncultured, while gatekeeping culture.