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[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I want this chart, but add the third Z axis of "environmental cost" whether it be just CO2 emissions or a "total" impact score.

I imagine those legumes get even stronger, while the meats lose ranking.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

this is such a great resource to understand why footprints are ridiculous metrics and how interconnected our industrial agriculture systems are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This is not a great resource, because cows and sheep get 95% of their water intake from eating grass and drinking rain water. But when you grow vegetables, you actually have to water them a lot.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Excepr they barely eat grass anymore, but imported soy from deprecated tropical forests.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

that's not true. cattle hardly get any of the global soy crop, and most of what is fed to animals is the byproduct from making soybean oil. cattle are fed about 2% of global soy iirc and only 7% of all the soy that is fed to any animal is whole soybeans. the rest is basically industrial waste.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

if you follow the citations they call that green water and break it down

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's irrelevant when the first graph shows utter bullshit and people fall for it. Cows don't need water, veggies go.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

i think we are in agreement that the methodology for quantifying agricultural impacts is flawed

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

why does cottonseed, which would otherwise go to waste, get counted against cattle, when that is a conservative of resources?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

according to this, cattle mostly graze or are fed things that otherwise would be wasted.