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Do you think people would be okay with 'Recall' if Apple did it? (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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With the recent WWDC apple made some bold claims about privacy when it comes to so called Apple Intelligence. This makes me wonder if they did something to what Microsoft did with Recall feature, would people be less concerned and to an extend praise their effort?

Do you trust apple with their claims?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No. The whole world turned against them in 2021 (I think?) when they were gonna have on-device monitoring for CSAM. They'd get run over by a bus for this too, same as MS.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It was a scan during upload to their cloud photos system. Everyone else does it on their servers, Apple was going to run the scan before so they didn’t have to ever have them. To not have images scanned before upload, a user would just not have to use their cloud photos service.

The messaging was really badly handled. They almost certainly just scan all the same photos on their servers instead now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

The perceptual hash algorithm was broken in hours, then so fully broken that modified images were visually indistinguishable from unmodified images, so you could send people images with hash values that match flagged photos.

Also, then there's the thing of the risk of various jurisdictions pushing for adding detection of other banned content.