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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. A showerthought should offer a unique perspective on an ordinary part of life.

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Even if god exists religion can't possibly be the way to god (lemmy.world)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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So I thought about this in the shower amd it makes sense to me, like praying and stuff never worked for most people I know, so a direkt link to god gotta be unlikely. That made me conclude that religion is probably fake, no matter if there's a god or not. Also people speaking to the same god being given a different set of rules sounds stupid, so at least most religions must be fake.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Counterpoint: faith and religion have caused more wars, misery, and death than any other single source in human history. We've had literally thousands of years of being led by religious leaders, maybe it's time to try something different. The world needs LESS faith.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I am in complete agreement with your statement, excepting the final line.

Organised religion leading society's and their involvement in government is definitely detrimental.

What I aim to bring to light here is that religion, belief and faith in something greater than oneself is (in my belief) healthy for humanity when it is driven by personnel introspection.

I feel that all too often we have very intelligent people who completely ignore the entire prospect or field of spirituality due to the negative light it is cast in.

I'm also happy for people to ignore it but speaking from my own experience, I never thought to investigate this side of the human condition as I had wrapped all notions of spirituality up with the atrocities and lack of logic or reasoning of organised religion. Religion was bad and stupid and I wanted nothing to do with it. But I've since grown and adapted my world views & hope to share my experiences from an empathic viewpoint to maybe assist others who can relate.

When I say we need more faith, I don't really mean faith in any particular god, entity, alien or higher power. I mean more so that faith in oneself, faith in the connected nature of all things and faith in the universe, this form of faith is a very empowering source of energy that we as a collective can draw upon.

It's open to interpretation and appreciate your response.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It sounds like you are replacing the words faith with confidence or certainty. You can be confident in yourself but you can’t have faith in yourself because faith necessitates not having knowledge otherwise it would be knowledge.

I can’t really say much more about your idea of faith since most of what you said is the standard vague wishy washy stuff that doesn’t tell me anything exact

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

As an agnostic, faith isn't confidence. It provides the wanderlust to go on along with a small ego boost for following morals.