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[–] [email protected] 144 points 5 months ago (8 children)

i think actual information is way too difficult to suss out these days with the misinformation campaigns and the paywalls and the trolling, etc.

shit try to do some comparison shopping today and try to figure out which reviews are real and if the thing you're buying is really the thing you think you're buying.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 5 months ago

The signal to noise ratio is getting worse by the day, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago

Definitely doesn't help, and modern machine learning models are only going to make this problem worse.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

People don't do their own research past the most cursory google searches at best of times, and now google is absolute garbage and the links that are relevant mostly go to massive SEO whale sites written by AI.

That's all before you get to the actual mainstream media sites that spout the same commercial news cycle stories, or spread sensationalized headlines and absolute nonsense. I have managed teams of people and on daily calls people talk about news stories they read like "Did you hear they found another spaceship on mars?" and "They found proof that covid was a Chinese bio-weapon!" and similar statements from working, middle-class people who just browse the websites and social media before work. Most people have very little time to dig into things they see, and now once-reputable sites are just cashing in on clickbait and lies.

This is how most people get their news and information, and it's absolute garbage now. Browse a major news site like MSN and it's worse than grocery store tabloids from the 1980's. And don't even get started about social media like twitter and facebook.

Something happened in the last couple decades that has made people literally just stop caring what's real or not. I feel like it was an attitude deliberately seeded into our culture, and it's now maturing as a society that has lost belief in everything and accepts anything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Agreed: "I feel like it was an attitude deliberately seeded into our culture, and it's now maturing as a society that has lost belief in everything and accepts anything."

That is the "feature" and the dead end... The full compliance on anything! No thoughts, no free speech!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

That's kind of the point.

We now have access to the information, and we've discovered that all along it was our inability to distinguish between misinformation and real information that was causing the stupidity.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Another issue is that information is easy enough to find that people don't bother to remember things as much anymore, since they can just look up the majority of stuff on Wikipedia or something if they ever need to know it. It leads to people having a smaller pool of background knowledge, which makes them easier to mislead.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I question whether or not this is true. People will remember things if they find them interesting, so incurious people didn't know much in the past, either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Best case example I know of these days: try to shop for a mattress

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ain't hard. Bullshit has a smell

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

But most people don't know how bullshit smells in the first place... Check the downvotes...