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Chat surveillance law by the EU Parliament? (results.elections.europa.eu)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The results are showing up... Now we have to hope for the law to be declined... Already discussed about the chat control law of the EU, here : https://lemmy.ml/post/16469106

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They don't actually have to enforce that though. Rather, it's a neat trick: if you do use encrypted chats, well, you're purposefully doing something illegal! To hide information, no less! That surely means you have more to hide, and since you've already broken a law, let's investigate further!

To be clear: I'm not saying this is the intended effect. But it is a frighteningly possible one. Anyone who has reason to hide their communication (regime critical activists, opposition politicians, investigative journalists,...) either have to

accept that their communication will be scanned, making it trivial to spy on them and use that information (legally, no less!) to hinder/stop them, or
do something illegal, giving pretext for hindering/stopping them since they've now committed a crime

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

the argument ?I've nothing to hide? isn't valid. Ask the people if then it's also OK if the Postman or anyone else read their private correspondence, or is looking over their shoulder while you are chatting with someone, above you are investigated by the authorities when you try to avoid it, it's exactly the same

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Oh, absolutely. In case it wasn't clear, I'm against chatcontrol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

They don't want to forbid the encryption only to backdoor to have a control on it. But that's almost impossible to backdoor all of them...