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[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (4 children)

China is helping China develop Chinese chips?

shocked-pikachu

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If the Chinese help China build this Chinese infrastructure, it may reduce Chinese dependence on Chinese chips, since China will be able to produce its own chips instead of buying them from China. This may hurt China economically long term, since China is the largest buyer of Chinese chips by far and if they start buying chips produced in China instead of Chinese chips China's economy might shrink.

Then again this is probably not that big a deal. Just more anti-Chinese propaganda by the US, pushing for Chinese independence from China, without quite going all the way and recognizing China as its own country, since that would go against the long standing policy that China is one country and China is part of that country.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Okay but how much wood would a wood chuck chuck tho?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

A LOT. If those fuckers could chuck wood I would even go so far as to say probably all of it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Republic of China ≠ People's republic of China.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (20 children)

Well yes. One is the result of a bloodthirsty and corrupt military dictatorship which is directly responsible for the deaths of millions, whereas the other is the People's Republic of China.

However, both are China as you can see from the names they've chosen for themselves.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

Taiwan (RoC) is politically independent from China. It is a democratic state with universal healthcare, excellent protection of indigenous culture, and a highly rated free press. All of which not enjoyed by PRC. It has also never taken command from PRC, ever.

Recognized or not, it is a independent political, economical, and cultural entity from China. Calling it part of China is just unhelpful burocracy.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago (2 children)

excellent protection of indigenous culture

doubt

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

Funnily enough, the US is an oligarchy, does not have universal health care, has absolutely shithouse protections for indigenous peoples, and a corporate controlled press that engages in self censorship. By this guy's criteria, America is not an independent sovereign country.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The "ROC" committed genocide against indigenous culture as part of the 40-years known as the White Terror. WTF are you talking about?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think the poster was being sarcastic, in agreement with you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Sorry, miscommented

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

None of the things you stated matter even a little as far as international law is concerned. You might subjectively think that those factors make an independent country, but your subjective opinion simply doesn't matter because international law determines statehood, not am arbitrary list of "oh, well that's nice" factors.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Do you not understand what "burocracy" mean? it is the case "burocracically", but "functionally" Taiwan and China are simply not tied whatsoever. Hence calling Taiwan part of China is "unhelpful".

Feel like I am teaching in an elementary school...

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago

Thankfully you are not teaching in an elementary school because I would expect an elementary school teacher to know the correct spelling of "bureaucracy".

The point you are flailing at is that Taiwan, Province of China is de jure part of China (and the vast majority of the world's nations recognizes the People's Republic of China as the sole legitimate government of China. De facto there is another entity occupying Taiwan Province.

Contrary to you claim that they are "not tied whatsoever", the ROC splinter government on Taiwan maintains a de jure claim over all of China (plus Mongolia) as blatantly illustrated by the official emblem of the ROC Marine Corps:

No country or international organization recognizes de facto control as the primary determing factor of independence or sovereignty. This is why terrorist organizations like ISIS or criminal gangs like certain cartels aren't considered sovereign states simply because they occupy and administer territory.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's bureaucracy and bureaucratically

I'm not even trying to be a dick, I just had to look up what you wrote to make sure that it wasn't something else.

Furthermore, your point is correct regardless of whether or not people agree with the PRC or ROC being the leader of China overall, Taiwan province is an independently functioning government.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago

The “ROC” committed genocide against indigenous culture as part of the 40-years known as the White Terror. WTF are you talking about?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

Taiwan (RoC) is politically independent from China. It is a democratic state with universal healthcare, excellent protection of indigenous culture, and a highly rated free press.

I like how this part reads like a chatbot.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

excellent protection of indigenous culture

Lmao, this is like saying the US has excellent protection of indigenous culture.

Recognized or not, it is a independent political, economical, and cultural entity from China. Calling it part of China is just unhelpful burocracy.

Except for the part that they claim they are part of China, are strongly economically coupled with China, and are full of Chinese people, sure.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Yes. Possibly so China can afford defenses to prevent an invasion of China by China, because China seems to think it needs to invade China to make sure it knows it’s China.