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The new standards require American automakers to increase fuel economy so that, across their product lines, their passenger vehicles would average 65 miles per gallon by 2031, up from 48.7 miles today. The average mileage for light trucks, including pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles, would have to reach 45 miles per gallon, up from 35.1 miles per gallon. Selling electric vehicles and hybrids would help bring up the average mileage per gallon across their product lines.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Queue up "the Democrats are outlawing gas cars" handwringing by the conservative simps.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Queue up “the Democrats are outlawing gas cars” handwringing by the conservative simps.

I'm good with this change but we have to admit that functionally its not too far off the mark. Even the article notes "...strict new limits on tailpipe pollution that are designed to ensure that the majority of new passenger cars and light trucks sold in the United States are all-electric or hybrids by 2032..."

So while ICE isn't being directly "outlawed" they are changing the rules to get a very similar result; the "conservative simps" won't be wrong exactly when they say it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Or gas vehicle manufacturers could spend real money on environmental r and d to meet the mark in the time allowed. Whatever it takes to lower our greenhouse gas emissions.

The push for more E.V.s comes as the world’s leading climate experts say that retiring the internal combustion engine is critical to staving off the most deadly effects of global warming.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why would they do that? Ford literally stopped making cars in the US because it was more profitable to make trucks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Well conceivably closing the truck loophole would put a stop to that. But it’s conceivable that instead of Ford responding to the new “innovate or die” law by innovating, it’ll respond by dying.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Whatever it takes to lower our greenhouse gas emissions

This attitude is why we need to be really, extremely sure about this climate change thing. Since we are sacrificing everything else to it, if it turns out to be a false alarm we will have fucked ourselves royally for no reason.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

🙄 we should study it or something. /s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Way smarter people than you or I have already came to the conclusion that man-made climate change is a real thing. This isn't a false alarm.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
  • you already quoted 2 possible technologies: Bev or phev.
  • hydrogen would also fit. companies who think that’s still a practical solution are free to try it
  • solar powered cars would also fit. Good luck with that
  • if you can make “Mr Fusion” a reality, it would also fit
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You can use weasel words to characterize it how you like but yes it’s very predictable that a lot of people won’t like this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

A lot of people won't like what 2 degrees warming brings earlier. Weasel that.