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YSK: lemmy.ml is managed by tankies, and lead lemmy developer is a tankie (lemmy.cafe)

submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Lead Lemmy Developer, Dessalines, denying the Tiananmen Square Massacre and praising the Uyghur Genocide

https://sh.itjust.works/post/8419342

Dessalines AKA "parentis_shotgun" on Reddit, is the main Lemmy dev, also the admin of lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml.

Their post and discussions on Reddit (archive as the original post must have been removed):

https://web.archive.org/web/20230626055233/https://old.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/cqgztr/fuck_the_white_supremacist_reddit_admins_want_me/

Please join the discussions for Lemmy.ml tankie censorship problem:

https://lemmy.world/post/16211417

And the discussions for finding/creating alternative communities on other instances:

https://lemmy.world/post/16235541

What is a tankie?

Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes or their allies. More specifically, the term has been applied to those who express support for one-party Marxist–Leninist socialist republics, whether contemporary or historical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This would make a ton of sense if your choice of Lemmy instance were not just that; a choice. It's not a characteristic innate to your being that you're born with or something.

You can choose to associate with whatever instance you want and swap it up with another account somewhere else if you want at any time (you can prob keep the same username if you want too).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

(you can prob keep the same username if you want too).

Unless it is already taken on the new instance, you absolutely can. Usernames are namespaced similar to email addresses. So, [email protected] and [email protected] are considered two different users. This means that there is no technical reason preventing it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This would make a ton of sense if your choice of Lemmy instance were not just that; a choice. It’s not a characteristic innate to your being that you’re born with or something.

Either I don't understand your objection, or you don't understand my point. Legitimately it could be either of those. I don't see what this has to do with most of what I said above.

You can choose to associate with whatever instance you want and swap it up with another account somewhere else if you want at any time (you can prob keep the same username if you want too).

OK, yes... Are you saying I should move my account elsewhere because OP (or some other people) don't like that my account says .ml at the end? Or because I'm only supposed to have an account on instances where I agree with the political leanings of those who run it?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's an awful lot of political views around that aren't tankie.

And it's less about the users and more about the kind of lopsided, censorship moderation that happens on .ml

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And it’s less about the users and more about the kind of lopsided, censorship moderation that happens on .ml

That may be your concern, but it's not the discusion OP started. That's the discussion OP claims to have started.

Quoting myself from yesterday:

Subject line: Nothing about moderation or censorship, it's about smearing the target's views.

First two sentences: Nothing about moderation or censorship, it's about smearing the target's views.

Third sentence: Links to archive.org link that fails to load. (I think they are still under DoS attack) May or may not be about moderation, but nothing OP wrote in the leadup to the link leads me to believe it's about more than smearing the target's views.

Then a couple links that sound like they are about discussing moderation.

Then another para smearing the target's opinions and politics some more.

I feel like those ratios are a bit off if OP is really so bothered about moderation practices.

There’s an awful lot of political views around that aren’t tankie.

Sure, but most of the time you don't know anything at all about who designs and develops the systems you use. I totally support people going to where they feel comfortable, and I'm a huge believer in defederation as one of the strengths of the fediverse. Block early and block often and all that. OP didn't spend time on that though, OP spent most of their time on character assassination.

Also, the target of these smears is the main Lemmy dev - not just Lemmy.ml. If OP is so concerned about their influence then OP should move to mbin or something.