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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Please read what I wrote and then (re)read the Wikipedia article.

Pay special attention in that article to how it's only ever "Israeli Citizens" that is used, never "Israeli Nationals", and how the interpretation of all of it changes in light of, in Israel and unlike just about all other countries in the World, CONSTITUTIONALLY a "Citizen" is not the same thing as a "National".

Unlike the naive interpretation from people who live in rational modern countries which are not etnostates (and were Citizenship is always the same as Nationality), that article doesn't say anything at all about Israeli Nationals.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I meant

Depending how the Maldives is doing this (is it based on Israeli Citizenship or is it based on Israeli Nationality?)

It's in the article - passports!

It doesn't make any difference, since because there really aren't any supporters of Israel in this thread, you will just open on anyone you assume is one with walls and walls of text (with which I mostly agree with you) but on a topic nobody put forward and in this condescending manner that is just meant to offend people. You haven't tried to understand my argument at all, you haven't even read the bloody article, you just want to scream at somebody.

So since you are this terrible at reading - let me put it again just for you and you only, I'll try to be blunt:

The tragedy here is that Israel says in response to the 7/10 that all Gazans are guilty, they all deserve to die. That is not acceptable, that is called collective punishment. And Maledives are justifying Israels approach by doing the same. Now Israel can say:

" Look ! Maledives are also using the same principle of collective punishment / collective responsibility and the World is praising them! "They are all antisemites and they are all using "special meter" on us and different meter on everyone else:". /s

...and what is worst - in this case they have a point! This exactly what we don't need right now. They could have just banned the settlers, or they could have just banned those several settlers Biden has banned and that would be perfectly fine. This is clumsy at best - no - It's just tragically stupid. It's costing us time that Gazans don't have.

I would like to point out that for some time I've felt bad for also wrongly accusing somebody without reading it all ironically also in regard to the Gaza conflict, but you are so much worse than I am.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

As I asked elsewhere, can those who are Israeli Citizens but not Israeli Nationals hold an Israeli passport?

Israel's system on this is wholly unique and I don't really know how that translates into the right to an Israeli passport since citizenship and nationality doesn't at all work there as it does in other countries.

Depending on that as well as on the distribution of wealth in Israel (the Maldives isn't a poor people tourist destination) then the number of people unjustly treated by this might be bigger or smaller (there are always some: even amongst the wealthiest Israeli Nationals - who, remember, to have nationality must be Jewish - there are some who are against what's being done in Gaza).