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[–] [email protected] 135 points 5 months ago (4 children)

And in case you haven't been paying attention, the Trump fascists want to undo all that with Project 2025.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Of course they want no fault divorce gone. They want their spouses stuck with them and unable to flee from the insanity.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago

They are populated by a lot of misogynistic and sexually frustrated guys trying so hard to overcompensate what little manliness they think they have. The kind that think it's OKAY for THEM to cheat but not the other way around.

There was a dude from TikTok recently that's going to get sentenced for life for murdering his wife and someone she was seeing. His reason? He tried using provocation and his emotional instability as the reason. Like, fuck you dude, you're insecure and you didn't use your brain power to divorce and dump her but instead you got to go and kill her?

Now imagine that shit amplified if Republicans or Trump get into office. Women left and right would not only be imprisoned in relationships or even marriages to guys that presumably lied about themselves to get their way with these women. But now guys would have practical immunity if they even think the woman they're dating with is cheating to kill them.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I actually came across this statistic in this article about those guys wanting to make divorce much harder, which linked to the study: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/05/no-fault-divorce-gop-republicans-mainstream-podcast-dudes/

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In addition to the men who are pushing these laws are the women who have bought into the same misogyny and support women being forced to stay in marriage. Frequently the same women who oppose abortion rights.

It is primarily men, but they wouldn't be successful without that support.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The fact that there are women who support this bullshit is something my mind can't comprehend. Are they sociopaths, sycophants, brainwashed.. or all of the above? I try to be mindfully empathetic and attempt to understand differing opinions even if i disagree...but I really struggle with this one. I just can't get there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ok, so I know this is about the most obvious suggestion possible on this subject, but if you haven't, and if you get a chance, read The Handmaid's Tale and its sequel, The Testaments.

They both have some really fascinating portrayals of women being or becoming complicit in the oppression of other women by a male-dominated system (while still also being oppressed themselves - their complicity is often a way of surviving in that system).

They're obviously not the be all and end all of the subject, but they really made me think about the kind of people you're describing, because I have (and still do) often felt the same - how can they do these things to other women?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for the suggestion! I've been meaning to read handmaid's tale, and I didn't know there was a sequel. I'll have to get them as audio books to listen to at work. Anything to help me understand what's going through their heads.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

No problem, and I'm thrilled to have recommended it to someone who hasn't read it yet! :-)

The sequel is good, but not as good as the original IMO. The original is magnificent. Devastating at times, but definitely one to read.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

There's no 'want' to it.

They already have. Idaho got away with criminalizing abortion, which means 2/3 of the states will do the same next session, just like how 2/3 of the states still allow for you to be paid $7 an hour.

In the absence of a true opposition party, the wolves are feasting.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"bUt DeMs SaMe!"

-some white kid trying to excuse themselves from their civic duty

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That's the thing.

You used to be able to count on Democrats to fight for social issues, at least. The Dems we have now are only concerned with increasing their own wealth, and that was very well-evidenced by their response to the Roe vs Wade leaks. Do you recall their response? They used it to fundraise and did nothing else. ($80,000,000 was the cost of your rights to bodily autonomy, in case you're curious.)

And now 2/3 of the states will get away with criminalizing abortion within another year or two, tops.

I remember when, in his first SOTU, Joe Biden mocked the Defund The Police movement, and called for increased police funding, even though the police are overtly fascist in most of the country and we all had just watched them proudly execute a man in the streets.

Now he's sending more bombs to Israel.

If you're telling yourself the Dems are the answer, I think you're just asleep at the wheel here.