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That I've actually encountered irl? The Anti 1080 conspiracy in New Zealand.
Its members do things like go out and kill protected birds themselves and dump them because they think the Department of Conservation's pest control plan is on behalf of the Illuminati who want to terraform NZ etc.
I've never encountered that theory before. As far as my exposure has been, most opposition to 1080 is based around bykill; the effect of the poison on non-target species.
The scientific evidence suggests that the number of natives killed unintentionally by 1080 drops is more than compensated by the increased survival rates of those who now suffer less predation, but walk into any pub and you'll find half a dozen people throwing out anecdotes about silent forests in the days after 1080 drops.
A lot of them also seem to refer to earlier forms of 1080 etc. Given the "silent seas" I suspect what this is really about is a sort of folk response to climate change and ecological collapse.
But the rabid activist ones seem to have linked the "Agenda 21" conspiracies, chemtrails etc with 1080. The covid/5G stuff as well, Sue Grey (antivax lawyer) was mixed up with the ban 1080 movement.
Do they say what the Illuminati want to terra form NZ in to? Or is just the threat of any kind of terra forming enough?
It's unclear to me. As far as I can tell they think the United Nations/Illuminati wants to poison the humans, birds, and mammals and ... maybe get rid of farmland? Repurpose New Zealand somehow.
Some of them have physically attacked Department of Conservation staff, sabotaged vehicles, etc. They're passionate about it.