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[–] [email protected] 104 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

I understand the frustration, but I can’t help but feel that their anger is misdirected. Do we really think video games are promoting violence?

[…] playing the game led the teenager to research and then later purchase the gun hours after his 18th birthday.

I’m getting a sense that there are other steps that could have been taken to prevent this tragedy aside from this video game that features guns.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They voted back in all the same leadership at an election not long after. Having made that decision, I find this to be less surprising than it might have been.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

I remember reading about that. All I could conclude is that the voters must approve in some sense of those actions. In which case, I’m afraid your peers have spoken and clearly indicate that it’s not a priority. It’s a shame.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

What about all the movies with guns? It's much more normal to see a movie about someone getting shot or otherwise killed than see even a titty, much less any genitalia. I'd argue that many more people watch media than play games, if that's the logic they're going for.

Their frustration is completely misdirected also because it's friggin' Texas! What do you need to get a gun in that state? A pulse?

Edit: the dude was 18, how did he even get a gun? You need to be at least 21 to have one. How did he even get an semi-automatic weapon? The fuck?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I hear what you're saying, but how many hours are logged by some swimming in images of fps games? I'd argue, from my interaction with teens, that there are far more hours logged than passively watching any media. But that's not the point anyway.

Our American society is swimming with a gun obsession. Whether it's via video games, movies, social media, politicians, the NRA, "2nd ammendment cities" (wtf), and too many more avenues to think of. Games are just one vector of marketing guns to a maleable population. The core of this suit is that a manufacturer was pushing their models within the game in collusion with Activision. I believe advertising guns to a kids demographic is prohibited. I'd search it, but I'm lazy and the AI results would be wrong anyway.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You need to be 21 to purchase a handgun from a dealer.

This was not a handgun.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Question still stands: how the fuck did he get a semi-automatic gun if he wasn't even able to get a handgun?

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Where are you from, exactly?

There's no classes of licenses like that in the US. If you are 18 and meet the minimal legal requirements, you can buy a long gun of any type in most states. (Some states are trying to move that age to 21.) That means a single shot, break action, lever action, bolt action, pump, or yes, semi-automatic. Once you hit 21, you can buy handguns. Again: that includes break action, revolvers, and normal semi-automatics.

The only real restriction in all of this is machine guns; to get those, you need to come up with the $20,000+ that a legal one will cost, and file a transfer application with the BATF, pay a $250 fee, and wait to see if your application is approved or denied. There are some states that prevent individual ownership of machine guns entirely.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Do we really think video games are promoting violence?

No, that's not their argument. They are saying the gun manufacturer advertised their real life gun in the video game. They don't have an issue with video game violence, they have an issue with advertising weapons to children.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

It's just a lawyer using the families to try some money and prestigious.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People have always blamed video games for violence, even all the way back to Columbine. This isn't a new argument.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Those arguments were weak then and they are no better now after years of research trying to test whether video games cause violent behavior. I don’t think there’s a need to revisit the same argument — unless of course new information or context that changes things has been found.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Oh, I'm not disagreeing at all. Even with all the evidence that video games aren't the problem, it's a convenient scapegoat to point a finger at while ignoring those who actually need to be held accountable.