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a generation of young Republican staff members appears to be developing terminal white nationalist brain. And they will staff the next Republican administration.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

and, so, it is critical that we vote

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah but Biden and the Democrats haven't done enough. We should not vote so that all others suffer my spite. /s

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As a wackadoo absolutist, I find Biden has not given us free energy and stopped all violence in the world. Therefore he obviously will not get my vote. The fact that trump will benefit from my ignorant obstinance is of no concern to me.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You beat the shit outta that strawman. good work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Of course I agree with you, we can’t let trump win again by any means.

But that shouldn’t completely erase the problems or legitimate criticisms. Mainly, right now, the criticism against Biden isn’t that he hasn’t given us a Jetsons future. It’s…the genocide thing.

And yes, we all still understand that trump would not be any better. It’s just really hard to hold your nose and be, once again, forced to vote for someone doing something as objectively awful as full-throated support for a genocide. This is just another election in a long history of elections where we are forced to support something we can’t in good conscience support.

Again, we get it, trump can’t be allowed to win. But hand waving away the legitimate problems with what is happening is just disingenuous. Not to mention, as we keep having to be the ones to sacrifice our morals, things continually do get worse. As they have been for the last 40+ years. It’s just hard to square the “we need to vote for Biden” with the fact that he’s doing something objectively awful. We’re always the ones that need to be the bigger people and just give in. When our firmly held beliefs are screaming in our ears that this is a bunch of bridges too far.

It’s not a unique position. But it’s really fucking hard to live with yourself when you know what you’re voting for, just so you can vote against something worse. We all have to do it, it just feels terrible. And wrong. Because it is wrong. For all intents and purposes, a vote for Biden is a supportive vote for the genocide in Gaza. It’s…despicable. But we all have to do it. And that fuckin sucks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Well put. I'm sorry for all the abuse you're gonna get from centrists for it.