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[–] [email protected] 145 points 5 months ago (7 children)

But we have to keep them as a close ally no matter what, right? There is no low Saudi Arabia can't sink to.

Similar to Israel.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago

They’ll only become more desperate as the world reduces fossil fuel dependence.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

They also buy lots of guns from the US. This is one of the real reasons. Lockheed Martin’s profit margins would decrease by a significant amount if our relationship with SA changed at all.

Even if the Saudis and other major countries in the reason were able to decrease tensions with Iran, Lockheed Martin and its associated propagandists and lobbyists would start beating the war drums to increase tensions and thus sales.

Edit: *one of the real reasons. Added para. on LM ensuring tensions in the region always remain high even when the people that live there and their government’s reduce tensions.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Not just Lockheed but all of the big defense contractors.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What's a bone saw or terrorist attack or two between such good friends.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"But for three shining decades, war profits were never higher."

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Cut 'em loose. Fuck 'em both.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

President Musk will demand tributes! Because that reality we can all understand easily. The whole petro-dollar hegemony thing is a little complex for a tweet. Not that anyone who understands it thinks it’s good.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

This. Fuck the Saudis and the Isrealis.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Per the article, they started to change policy a bit after some of the groups they were sponsoring started attacking the monarchy:

Astonishingly, the attacks of 9/11 had little effect on the Saudi approach to religious extremism, as diplomats and intelligence officials have attested. What finally changed royal minds was the experience of suffering an attack on Saudi soil. In May 2003, gunmen and suicide bombers struck three residential compounds in Riyadh, killing 39 people. The authorities attributed the attacks to al-Qaeda, and cooperation with the U.S. improved quickly and dramatically.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And they murdered Kashoggi in what year?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Right. We reward them no matter what they do.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Only 39 people? That's like, one month's worth of mass shootings in the US /s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

His name was Jamal Khashoggi.

Never forget.