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Boeing 747-400 with 468 people aboard was forced to make an emergency landing in Indonesia on Wednesday after one of its engines caught fire and began shooting out flames during takeoff.

The Garuda Indonesia flight was bound for Medina, Saudi Arabia, which is the entry point for many Muslims making their pilgrimage to Mecca. It left from Indonesia’s international airport in Makassar, where clips showed one of the plane’s four engines becoming engulfed in flames during takeoff on Wednesday evening.

Videos of the engine fire were shared online by JACDEC, a plane crash data evaluation firm, which showed that the flames began just as the plane had lifted from the runway.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Zoom out to the 5 year graph and it tells another story.

Also such events (which are non-catastrophic) are not entirely uncommon.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

To me, it seems like these events are way beyond common. A single accident (even catastrophic) would be acceptable. What is going on at Boeing, seems to be way beyond acceptable!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Have you actually looked at data or are you just going by feel based on how many news articles you see?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

That second one.

The knee-jerkiness and low effort "feels" comments on Lemmy sometimes is worse than it ever was on Reddit. It's really exhausting.

Ironically I find that the same people that complain about clickbait headlines are some of the worst when it comes to falling for rage-bait, for outrage addiction, not bothering to read articles, comment almost entirely off of "feels", etc.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

I don’t disagree with your views on Boeing, but this incident is quite likely not related to Boeings problems, (other than their hard-earned public perception problem). Plane engines shouldn’t catch fire, but they do, whether that is rare bad luck or somebody screwed up is yet to be decided, but it sounds like this is not a newly minted plane, Boeing probably hasn’t touched it in years.

Not that Boeing hasn’t earned their public perception problem, but accidents happened before Boeing lost their mojo, and will continue to happen even if Boeing regain it. This incident may well turn out to have lessons once the investigation is done, and some might be directed at Boeing, but that’s not where I’d put my money this time around, it sounds unlikely that they caused this particular incident.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

What is going on at Boeing, seems to be way beyond acceptable!

This specific plane was built in 2001, and its engines were made by Pratt & Whitney. Boeing doesn’t build the engines, 747 engines came from Pratt & Whitney, GE, or Rolls Royce depending on the preference of the original buyer.

Air incidents happen all the time (though fatalities are rare). You hear about the Boeing ones because Boeing is in the news (for very good reason, with regard to the 737 MAX and to a lesser extent the 787). But Boeing wasn’t responsible for this incident.

If anything, Boeing’s design of the 747 proved itself yet again. That plane successfully climbed and maintained a holding pattern for 90 minutes after an engine failure during takeoff.

Don’t get me wrong, modern Boeing needs to be overhauled. But older Boeing planes are still remarkably safe. (As are the current ones, the 787 has never suffered a fatality or a hull loss. But they’re playing a dangerous game with safety at the expense of profit lately.)