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Dunning Krueger Effect is an excellent example of bullshit science and people accepting things that sound right instead of rigorously checking.
Read more here https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/critical-thinking/dunning-kruger-effect-probably-not-real
Edit: another source, perhaps more appropriate as a source: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/how-do-you-know/202012/dunning-kruger-isnt-real
So using the Dunning-Krueger effect to prove how smart you are is an example of the Dunning-Krueger effect?
Well it depends on how you’re using it.
On the surface, if I understand what you’re asking correctly, no. From what I’m understanding of these articles, the dunning Krueger effect never did what it set out to accomplish, but something along the lines of people who don’t know much have a much larger amount of things that they themselves aren’t even aware of not knowing… if that makes sense? I can try to reword later tonight after I finish with work
Your last link pissed me off enough I wrote an entire post on why that study is dog shit.
It sometimes pays off to review the methodology and supplementary materials in papers.
I believe that I may have originally gotten wind of this from a less wrong post IIRC. Pretty interesting stuff. Imagine if we trained an AI on doing science and peer review, and set it loose on the suite of research findings and had it report back all the BS...
This disptoves any statistical anonmaly that suggests the majority of people fall into the "dunninng-kruger effect"; it doesn't disprove the existence of ignorant people who overestimate their understanding or knowledgeable people who understimate their understanding.
Thus OP's question becomes: how do you know if you're one of those people?
You know what you know, and you don't know what you don't know. If you don't know what you don't know, it would follow that you wouldn't understand how much you don't know either.
IMO its a philosophy battle, just for the sake of battle. Assuming ignorance, and striving to learn more, learn from your mistakes, and self assess reign supreme - imo.