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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Not wrong.

Also, I was alot older than when I first watched the series.....that the entire Data vs Lore monkier went right over my head....

.....Even when ST:TNG S1E13 is litterly titled "Datalore".

Took season 3 of Picard for me to get it finally. πŸ€”πŸ€―

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't get it, what's the special meaning?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Data is just information, while lore is storytelling. It's why Data's character is more clinical in behavior while his brother Lore is more chaotic and "human"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Oh, right - good call!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Nice, never caught that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Took season 3 of Picard for me to get it finally. πŸ€”πŸ€―

For those of us who don't watch the Nu Trek stuff, could you elaborate?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

ST:P S308 "Surrender".

Data/B4/Lore were all partitioned in the same positronic brain that was in a "new" Data body.

And Lore and Data had an internal fight over the body.

Also you really should give Strange New Worlds a try at least.

IMO S1/2 of Picard is retconned dumpster fire for the most part. 3 was a bit redeemed/its own story Arc.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Thanks for the reply.

Data/B4/Lore were all partitioned in the same positronic brain that was in a β€œnew” Data body.

And Lore and Data had an internal fight over the body.

That seems unusual, that one positronic brain can handle all three of those at once, but it sounds like a potentially interesting episode.

I feel bad for B4, sounds like he'd be way out classed by the other two.

Also you really should give Strange New Worlds a try at least.

I might if it ever comes to a service that I have a sub to where I can see it.

But fundamentally, I'm kind of a 'substance over style' type of person, and all the new Nu Trek stuff seems like all style and all amateurish storytelling retcon, no world building/lore substance.

I kind of feel like that if the writers can't respect the lore and the world building in the Star Trek shows that came before them, and only doing them lip service later on when they're desperate and pandering for viewership, then they're not respectful of me or my viewing time, and hence not worth my effort to 'engage' (pardon the pun).

But I will keep an eye out for Strange New Worlds, and if I see an episode on cable/streaming service, I'll check it out. I've seen some shorts on YouTube, and it peaked my interest a little bit.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

no world building/lore substance.

I like Picard and Discovery because they do better at this. At least they have a story arc over a season, and both seem to fit with canon well enough for me. The first season of Discovery is the best Star Trek ever

Strange New World is also good, but it took a lot longer for me to get into because it is more β€œstory of the week”, similar to older series. Plus the previews/ads did not appeal to me at all. Eventually I did get over it and enjoyed the show for what it is

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You consider TNG to be Nu Trek? I typically consider TOS, TNG, and DS9 to be the OGs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They are referring to Star Trek: Picard as 'nu trek', not TNG

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Ah, I got mixed up because the original point was about TNG. I guess I somehow missed that he said Picard, meaning the show. My bad. Picard is definitely Nu Trek.