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[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Irrelevant. The kids Assad had tortured belonged to important Syrian families, not any refugees in the country.

Over a million refugees puts strain onto the economy and government, which then triggers unrest, which then triggers backlash from the government. Assad wasn't justified in torturing kids, but the civil war wasn't just started or sustained because of torture.

While the occupation isn’t widely recognized, I really see no point in portraying it as a bad thing.

It's literally stolen land and that's why it isn't widely recognized, and since only the US and Israel (really the 51 States) recognize it then it's clear who is to blame.

Libya saw an uprising that was supported by a Western coalition based on a UN resolution. Blaming America for the ensuing chaos makes no sense. It was morally the right choice to support the rebels.

And now look at Libya. Still think it was the right choice? Do you like the open slave auctions?

but anything that floats in these waters

An outright lie. They're attacking ships that do trade with Israel (and now the US and UK, since they've made their unconditional support for Israel very clear)

Are you really blaming America for supporting groups that fight against such a monster?

I'm crediting America for it. And now look at Syria! Is it better off now? Oh, I guess you think it is!

Let me do some whataboutism for a change: There were 45,000 Russian air strikes until 2019 alone, which, unlike American air strikes, primarily targeted civilians:

In support of the government. I thought it was okay when the government invites foreign militaries!

There are now parts of Syria with democracy and human rights:

And there are other parts which are still semi-active war zones, which have even less democracy and human rights than before the war.

I guess that's worth it to you.