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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Well it didn't "undo" anything in 8, it just undercut and betrayed its core themes. That doesn't erase 8, it just spits in 8's face.

It's impossible for 8 to have undercut 7's core themes, because 7 doesn't have any.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

if for some reason you believe it's impossible for a film to retcon things, why not just save us both some time by opening with that, rather than having this pointless little back and forth?

it's a really weird time to argue for death of the author when we're talking more or less specifically about directorial intent and we have the interviews from people involved

it's also kind of weird to argue for death of the author while also insisting the emperor was only established in 5, when he's mentioned multiple times in 4

It’s impossible for 8 to have undercut 7’s core themes, because 7 doesn’t have any.

i'm not sure i'm the salty one here

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

8 didn't do any retcons. A retcon would be "actually Snoke isn't the main villain, he's just a clone created by Palpatine." 8 was perfectly happy to play nice with all the facts established in 7, and then have Ben kill Snoke as the first dramatic climax of the movie. 8 gets to have two dramatic climaxes because Rian Johnson is a brilliant filmmaker.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

A retcon would be “actually Snoke isn’t the main villain, he’s just a clone created by Palpatine.”

by the logic you're using, that still wouldn't be a retcon, because it would've been the intention the entire time

i'm also stunned you think anything about "he turns the lightsaber to face his TRUE ENEMY" was well handled