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Seen a lot of posts on Lemmy with vegan-adjacent sentiments but the comments are typically very critical of vegan ideas, even when they don't come from vegans themselves. Why is this topic in particular so polarising on the internet? Especially since unlike politics for example, it seems like people don't really get upset by it IRL

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Rice and beans are staples in poor countries. Meat is for the rich.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Yes. Meat is expensive, and should be expensive.

However meat replacement products cost even more, but they should be cheaper, because they are cheaper to produce.

Diary free ice cream is more expensive. Cow milk is cheaper than oat milk.

This isn't just about not eating meat or animal products, this is the whole "vegan lifestyle" food that is unreasonable more expensive.

Like buying more expensive vegan salt or sugar instead of normal one.

And if you don't do that, you are not a "true vegan™". And the vegan police will come and get you!

"Oh, the pepper you just ate was fertilized by pig manure, sorry you aren't vegan anymore. You should have bought the more expensive vegan pepper."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

You don't need to buy luxury items to eat healthy vegetables. Such a weird defense.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I'm not sure why you are making up imaginary arguments. Have you ever heard anyone ever accuse someone else of "not being vegan anymore" because they ate a non vegan product? I know quite a few vegans, I try to be vegan myself (but quite often cave, cheese is delicious), and all the vegans I know would be simply thrilled to know that someone was making an effort at all. Literally no one cares if you aren't 100% vegan, basically no one is anyway. But if you decide once a week to eat a vegan meal instead of a steak, great!! That's still helping the planet, better for the animals, etc.

But making up these ridiculous vegan cliches doesn't help anyone, it just makes more people annoyed at each other.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The fact that you just think people should live more poorly and with less nutrition if they can't afford the fru fru stuff is really disturbing.

I've been rive and beans only poor before. It sucked a lot. And on the rare occasion I could get some meat or cheese in my diet I definitely wasn't in a position to be worried about which choice was "worse". I just wanted some freaking variety. I should be able to have that. Everyone should.

Donate to your local food bank!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I just stated a fact. Not what I think nor what others should do. I do however think you underestimate how healthy vegetables are. I never said people should only eat rice and beans.

Now go and enjoy your flesh, because otherwise there won't be variety (that sounds really dumb btw).