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I don't disagree that there should be more non-jedi focused stories... but I do have a problem with this:
A story was told. That doesn't mean every story that could involve jedi has been told. Just the same one rehashed multiple times. Different stories, focusing on different aspects of that same mythos without retreading the same ground (again), can still be told. It just requires more risk, which is why it hasn't been tried as much.
It doesn't help that, because of forty years of history, people are attached to these characters and stories. They want to explore more of that. I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing... unfortunately there is a lack of focused direction that has made it difficult to continue it with any kind of stable quality.
"tell more stories about the jedi without retreading the same ground" is the same request as "tell more stories about the star wars universe without retreading the same ground" just with less risk, and in turn with less potential for truly interesting and unique ideas
What you're asking for is not Star Wars, but Traveller.
Which could be great, honestly, but it wouldn't be Star Wars.
I bet it would save Disney a lot in licensing fees to Lucas though, not having to use his characters and pay for them.
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Rogue One at times feels more like Star Wars than the original trilogy, and doesn't have a single Jedi in it.
Your measurement for what counts as "Star Wars" seems pretty arbitrary. 4 would be essentially the same movie even without the presence of any Jedi.
I guess I've just seen more movies than you, because it didn't feel like a Star Wars story, it seemed like a spy movie trying to escape with plans to a weapon. 🤷♂️
I'm pretty sure that the most iconic type of thing in the storytelling for Star Wars, the most recognize and beloved, would be Force wielders.
That the Force, and how it manifests itself in the storytelling, is what makes Star Wars, Star Wars.
And that most would agree with my opinion on the matter. It's been in the news and stories and magazines etc etc etc long enough prove that point.
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I guess you just don't really understand Star Wars as well as you think you do 🤷♂️
it's an aesthetic and a setting
if you define it as a narrative you can't step outside the first three films
You really don't have to keep attacking me you know? We could just discuss the points instead.
So is Traveller TTRPG, or Babylon Five, Warhammer 40K, etc., etc.
But none of them are Star Wars.
I'm not, you keep assuming I am, but I'm not.
I'm talking the unique points of the world building/lore. You can have different narratives in story telling for the same world (or in this case, galaxies).
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buddy i literally just took what you said and changed a few words around. if it feels like attacking you then maybe do some self reflection?
where have i attacked you?
put literally anything from 40k next to literally anything from star wars and it becomes painfully obvious that they're two distinct properties
you're aware 40k essentially also has the force too, right? i'm not sure what point you're trying to make here
what unique points?
jedi are reskinned samurai, and the force is just a reskinned magic system combined with reskinned buddhism