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Sam Woodward, former member of Atomwaffen Division, was arrested in 2018 for murder of gay, Jewish pre-med student

Six years after his arrest, a former member of the Atomwaffen Division will face trial in a southern California courtroom over the killing of his former high school classmate – a murder that rocketed the neo-Nazi group to international notoriety and highlighted the wave of violence by far-right American extremists during the presidency of Donald Trump.

Sam Woodward was arrested on 15 January 2018 and charged with the murder of Blaze Bernstein, a former fellow student at the Orange County School of the Arts. Bernstein, a gay and Jewish pre-med student, had been missing for a week before his body was discovered in a shallow grave.

On the night of 10 January 2018, the two men met at Borrego Park in the Orange county city of Lake Forest, according to Orange county sheriff’s reports. Bernstein was home from the University of Pennsylvania on winter break, and re-established contact with his former high school classmate through Tinder, where the two had previously connected.

Bernstein did not hide his identity as a gay man. Although Woodward was not open about his, while in high school he made passes at more than one of his male classmates, according to reporting in Mother Jones.

Bernstein’s body was found with 19 stab wounds. Investigators’ attention quickly turned to Woodward, the well-off son of an observant, conservative Catholic family from Newport Beach.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's my point, look at how badly I'm downvoted here for being intolerant of intolerance

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think the problem is that your initial comment sounded like plain old intolerance.

"Deport them"...and what if they're citizens?

Why bring up Palestine at all, as if it were some sort of gotcha?

There's a genocide happening in the world, and people are protesting it. That's a good thing to protest.

I've heard some of the chants, and they're mostly stuff about freeing Palestine. Not about genociding back. Some protesters are marching with Jewish people who condemn the acts of Israel.

I've even seen plenty of individuals, shared graphics, etc. of people clarifying that they do not hate Jewish people, but they hate the Israeli government and its actions.

If you cherry-pick the people who are racist, then sure. But your comment almost makes it seem like you're suggesting they're the majority in those protests.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I posted a video of a Muslim just talking about how Jews killed Jesus. This goes beyond Gaza, it's anti-Semitism. These people hate the Jews and people are downvoting me for pointing it out

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That guy in the video you posted certainly hates Jewish people, it's not hard to find individuals full of hate. The problem (and the downvotes) comes when you make blanket statements talking about everyone in a particular ethnic group or religion such as "these people hate the Jews". Just because you found one member of such a group who spews antisemitic vitriol doesn't mean everyone in that group does the same.

For example I wouldn't say that everyone you associate with is Islamophobic just because you are.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'm talking only about the anti-Semitic individuals.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I posted a video of a Muslim [...]

These people hate the Jews

...lol

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

These fake Palestinian supporters that are really anti-Semites, not all Muslims

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ok, so you shared a video of someone who is intolerant. We should be intolerant of that intolerance.

It doesn't really have anything to do with the post, but I guess it's good to find other examples? Lol

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My point was people here will give anti-semites a free pass if they happen to support a cause they also support

But it's a huge mistake and will backfire

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Which person here was giving anti-Semites a free pass? Lol

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's out on the streets where nobody confronts these people for celebrating deaths of Israelis, supporting Houthis who regularly execute LGBT people, supporting Iranian terrorism.

So many people think these allies on the Palestinian issue, but they are actually coopting the movement to spread absolute bullshit

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You said "people here".

"Out on the streets" is something very different.

It seems like you brought up a local (to yourself) issue that's only tangentially related to the topic at hand so you could get up on your soapbox, and wondered why you were getting downvoted. You also did it in a way that made it sound like you were being intolerant of a group of people by brushing them with broad strokes.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not to myself, we see videos of these people "protesting" where they are cheering for terrorism, want to get rid of Israel completely, etc.

Yet I see nobody on the left protest their intolerance, only the liberals do

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

we see videos

"I" would be better to use. You can't speak for everyone.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

I didn't say we as in "you and I"

I said we as in "my girlfriend and I"