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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Quoted from your AP link, "These medical treatments don’t begin until the onset of puberty, typically around age 10 or 11."

But sure, I'll play your game and focus on the youngest, though that starts on disingenuous footing. Is the six year old questioning and talking, or are they loaded up and immediately converted to the opposite gender. We both know that total gender conversions are not occurring at that age. Talking? Counseling? Sure, I could see that. Now focusing back outside of disingenuous territory..

Wouldn't the root-cause question be that if harm is caused and if it is reversible? All the information I have seen shows that the methods followed simply delay development in a way that can be harmlessly resumed. It seems to be an exercise in "buying time" before physiology locks one into a gender.

Further, I wouldn't expect the treatment for a six year old to match the treatment for a seventeen year old. Counseling, discussing, psychiatric evaluation, etc, there are many phases of evaluating before comitting to action.

All I'm trying to do is accurately represent what is occurring.

Gender is complex, every human being that is a male has already undergone a gender transition (we all start as female). And what is interesting, once your physiology assigns you a gender, your body forever attempts to undo that gender assignment, and there is a chemical flag that prevents that undoing. That chemical flag works differently in each individual. In short, our biology doesn't always lock into a binary selection. As a result of the above mechanisms, some people exist between genders.

But for what reason do people feel the need to demonize the natural outcomes of biology. People aren't going to stop being born as intersex (previously referred to as hermaphrodites). Intersex people, born with a penis and simultaneously a vagina, exist of all ages, and to forbid them from pursuing treatment creates a prison of their own body. No one outside of the mentally ill wants to abduct and forcibly transition children, that is not what is occurring. If listening to transgender people is a crime, you're creating quite a large group of criminals.

Disclaimer, I'm not an expert and won't attempt to pass myself off as one, so the above information should be verified independently. But as a pursuer of information, all of the information I have found quickly dispells the myths being propagated from conservative outlets and I'm not even touching some of the more outrageous claims.

If your comments get removed when you voice your opinion, maybe you aren't representing the views of modern science but instead are repeating refutable claims that few experts stand behind.