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While rebutting another post here on Lemmy, I ran into this. This says exactly what I want to say.

I am not a friend of Biden's Administration. I think they drug their feet over a variety of things ranging from holding Trump and his goons accountable for January 6th through rulemaking on issues like OTC Birth Control and abortion rights, and yes, I think he's too quick to please big business. But then I remember what the alternative is, and ... well, disappointed in Biden or not, I'm voting for him. Because my wife is a Black bisexual goth woman, four strikes under Team Pepe's tent. And I have my own strikes for marrying her as a White dude, and respecting her right to not have kids since she doesn't want them is another strike against me. And I care about my Non-Christian, Gay, Transgender, and Minority friends, and will never willingly subject them to Team Pepe.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I will almost certainly be voting for Biden, but why on Earth do you think we can push the DNC to the left? "Stop fascism now, then right after the vote is won, start pushing the party Left" has been the calling action for progressives and leftists for decades and the US has gotten more right-wing with time.

Why is this time any different? Is it finally time to realize that you cannot vote the DNC to the left at the scale required to make actual change?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

With FPTP voting you literally don't have a choice. Push for voting reforms first

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

We can't even ditch the electoral college that regularly thumbs its nose at the popular vote, how do you think we'll get ranked choice to become the federal norm in 4 years?

Looking at the past 40ish years, no party has ever held the presidential office for two consecutive candidates (not terms, candidates), so we're pretty much guaranteed a Republican president in 2028 even if Biden wins 2024. And even though Trump will be rotting in a prison (or grave) by then, the Republican candidate will be just as evil, if maybe more eloquent about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's not the question I asked, haha. Voting reform would be nice, of course, but that doesn't mean it will happen. That's pure idealism. Voting reform has been pushed for for decades, how do you plan on actually getting voting reform through? Waiting for candidates to magically appear in the DNC and not just third party, and vote for them?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you don't get voting reform through, you don't have much leverage at all for much else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I asked how you're getting it through, are you just saying the answer is to wait for the DNC to get around to it? Because I really hope that isn't what you're saying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How are you getting anything else through? If you can push them to make any changes at all, this one should have top priority

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I don't believe you can, which is why I support grassroots organizing. Strike funds, mutual aid, that kinda stuff. The state will not be reformed in a manner that gives workers a meaninful voice, only mild concessions, unless there is massive outside pressure.