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Ralph Nader Would Like to Stop Having to Explain Why the Spoiler Coverage Is Stupid
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this post was submitted on 15 Apr 2024
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I fully agree with the idea that if Biden doesn't win the upcoming election, the world including women and Hispanics and Palestinians and American soldiers and Democrats and a whole bunch of other people will be actively in danger. I'm voting for Biden in the general election.
I actually think Biden is a radical upwards departure from the Democratic norm; he's concretely advancing a progressive agenda in ways that no Democrat since Carter has. Yes maybe it's good to add that as explicit context when posting this article.
At the same time, I think it's 100% justified as Nader does here to examine "how the fuck did things get to such a state that a Democrat like that could be in any kind of trouble as an incumbent in an election against literally one of the worst people in the world." Since he's someone who's been involved in landmark legislative gains like the creation of OSHA, I think it's relevant to listen to his critique of the media and the DNC establishment.
But yes, Biden definitely needs to win this particular election or else there will be a whole lot of suffering in many different places in the world. On that we can agree.
@mozz
"how the fuck did things get to such a state..."
Because Ralph motherfucking Nader, and Mother Jones, and other scumbags like them, tore Americans away from reality and from sanity. That's how.
Ah yes, the pervasive and poisonous influence of Ralph Nader and Mother Jones on American society has been well documented. If only we could put a stop to them, our electoral system would finally be functioning as intended.
I'm just gonna direct the next "don't vote in the election it doesn't matter" troll that I run across at you, and let you and them hash it out. I feel like you and me talking is unlikely to be productive.
Please don't. I don't want to argue with someone that dumb.
You for real made me laugh out loud 😃
I don't think the person is dumb, maybe just panicked about anything that might lead to Trump, which I get. And yes I definitely believe there is fascist-enabling propaganda on this topic.
But in any case I appreciate the note, I will not attempt to redirect them to you or etc
Ironically, it is you who can't realize that you and your ilk, together with the republicans, are what's preventing real progress.
If we had 60 of his ilk in Congress you'd be complaining about how slow your universal health care is.
It's always the 3% that voted 3rd party and never the 15% that swapped party. Your candidate couldnt even win his home state, if he did, he could have lost Florida and won the election. Blame your own party for your loss and quit trying to deflect responsibility to others