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Disclaimer: we still have pragmatic reason to follow the evidence suggested by our best scientific theories. I'm just poking fun at scientists in the spirit of Hume. There's no guarantee that the future will resemble the past, and even our best scientific theories are amenable to future evidence.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“All observed swans are white” is not incompatible with the unobserved existence of a black swan.

Of course we aren’t omniscient and there’s a possibility of an anti-gravity anomaly stopping the boulder, but not standing under them is still the most rational response to the data we do have.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well, if you don't like that example, take the actual refutation of Newtonian physics by Einstein. The point remains the same.

And if you're willing to concede our fallibility, then I think I've addressed all your concerns in the disclaimer I wrote under the meme.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Both Newtonian and Einstein’s physics suggest a boulder pushed off a cliff will fall, as far as I know. The observable data is more intrinsically valuable than the theories using them.

Fallibility isn’t something science shies away from. There’s nothing more exciting in the scientific community than when science is wrong about something.

Philosophers grandiosely proclaiming that nothing is knowable is fine, but it’s not what put a man on the moon.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We aren't even disagreeing now but you would rather argue than grasp the point. Point being, the presuppositions of science are not themselves within the purview of science. All our best theories start with axioms.

You continue to talk about the usefulness of science, which I conceded before you ever typed your first comment. At this stage, I have to assume that you're being willfully obtuse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You said you were poking fun, I poked back. I appreciate the conversation, I enjoy thinking about these things.