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Interesting history lesson.
Is the implication that Spitzspot is a fascist / communist and anti-Semite because they said Slava Ukrani?
They well may be, but that's a big call based on the use of a phrase which has seen a rapid evolution in it's usage in the last few years.
Are all Hindi and buddists and Jainists who continue to use the swastika as a part of their religious symbolism anti-Semite fascists as well?
Is Kim Jong Un a proponent of individual rights and liberties because he leads the Democratic People's Republic of Korea?
I'm guessing there's a few Americanism's that'd have the same complex history.
Slava Ukrani may have it's origins in fascism, but right now across the english speaking world it is seen as a Clarion call championing the freedom of a democratic Ukraine against the current fascist Russian regime.
Words have more than one meaning, and those meanings evolve.
All attempts to whitewash banderite crap always resemble this good old comics.
Again, most of the people using this statement are using it in solidarity with Ukranian independence and are unaware of its origins.
Your comic is too simple to explain the complexity of this issue.
This was a strawman argument anyway.
And yet Ukraine’s Nazi problem never ended, and remains to this day.
No shit. The world's fascism problem never ended. Do you have any articles discussing fascism in Russia? Or America? Or the EU?
How do you feel about Volodymyr Zelenskyy? Is he an anti-Semite fascist too?
I'd love to hear your opinion on Putin.
Fascists like like Alexei Navalny, you mean?
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Or like Aleksandr Dugin, who some Lemmitor falsely called Putin’s “right-hand man” this week?
The best summary of that I think is: The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It
Is this one of those “Zelenskyy is Jewish so Ukraine can’t have a Nazi problem” arguments? That’s like saying Obama is black so America can’t have a racism problem. Anyway, there were Jewish Nazis in Nazi Germany, including high ranking officers.
I can’t compress the last ~25 years of Russian leadership into an “opinion,” so pass.
@davel @thisnameisnottolong
You and Putin really hate those Ukrainian Nazis. Will you help Putin or do you have bone spurs or something?
Why don’t you? https://ildu.com.ua/
The Intercept, 2022: Foreign Fighters in Ukraine Could Be a Time Bomb for Their Home Countries Two killed in the Ukrainian Army’s International Legion may have been neo-Nazis.
Yes, Ukraine had a dangerous drift towards exclutionary Ukrainian nationalism for many years, which Russia promoted by igniting the conflict through their use of paramilitary forces in Donetsk and Lugansk, which made it great for Ukrainian supremacists and Russian supremacists to fester in both sides.
Despite that, Ukraine elected Zelensky, a Russian speaking president who spoke both Ukrainian and Russian during his inaugural speech as symbolism that it was time for their country to reconcile itself with its minorities.
But this fact is usually omitted in Russian propaganda, since it's so devastating to their narrative.
Yes, that was Zelensky’s sales pitch, and it got him into office, and probably it was even what he wanted, but his presidency didn’t play out that way, because fascist elements in the country, in the military/paramilitary, and in government didn’t allow it to play out that way. The guy was a comedian, an actor who played president on a TV show. He got into office with no political experience and got steamrolled. It’s extremely unfortunate for everyone in the world but the fascist elements in Ukraine.