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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where did I say it most likely came from a lab, qoute me right now.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the virus is 99% similar to that of one found in Chinese pangolins. The 1% genetic difference could come from a lab on accident, but that would most likely be from the Wuhan lab

Did you, like, forget your own post? "On accident"?

Again, for the millionth time: it showing up in Wuhan in December means literally nothing to the origin of the virus if it, and I'll be very clear here and agree in principle to literally everything else you've said, if it had spread from Yunnan province (in tropical Asia) to Italy by September or indeed May.

And, because you edited in the stuff about Yunnan apparently after I'd gone to sleep: Wuhan is in Heibei province in Central China. Not Yunnan. Any pangolins in any market even if present (and scientists tracking trafficked animals from Oxford say they weren't), would have come from further south such as, yes, Yunnan. Or any of dozens of other places in tropical Asia, from where someone could also have in a single day traveled to Europe.

I simply cannot understand how an educated person would boil it down to this idea:

The virus is 99% similar to one in pangolins in Yunnan province and so if coming from a lab it must come from a lab in Wuhan, Heibei where they studied bats, and then it either spread from there in December 2019 to the people in Wuhan but also and traveled in time and space to Italy in September 2019, or spread from the lab at some undetermined time but did not affect anyone in China for 3 months, spreading instead to Italy and Spain and other places and eventually decided, like so many Chinese people, to return home for Chinese New Year back first to the exact city it came from, in Central China.