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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2980962/

Heart & kidneys > brain > liver > skeletal muscle > adipose muscle

Pound for pound. But they all are efficient, which still goes against the original thesis

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Due to not wanting to move the goalposts, I'll cede regarding organs.

That said, I meant vs fat. I should have clarified. One does does does not build or shed more organs, so I thought that was clear, but I see I was not

Also said, I've seen the brain one contested quite a bit.

Again I cede to your source and acknowledge it, only clarifying I was comparing to non organ tissue.

Edit my meaning was a pound of fat, at rest, burns less and contributes less to TDEE than a point of muscle. Therefore muscle is less efficient, using more calories to continue existing per unit time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fair enough. And I'll give you the vs fat part. It was unfair for me to say anyway - what was in my head when I said it was that a pound of fat is considered worth 3500 kcal, which is more energy than most things in a body. It was a shit argument that mixed points.

Overall, I think my issue is just with the simple statement that "muscles are inefficient".

The way I interpreted that statement is that "muscles waste energy", since that's all the context I could get from those words. I see muscles as super efficient, just like anything else in the body in that they do as little as possible compared to what is demanded. I view that type of laziness as ultimate efficiency.

Through the rest of the thread I got little additional context, so I kept on keeping on.

I still think the op of this thread didn't get his point across very well

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it's a funny thing.

Efficiency has multiple meanings for a living body, and a goal. (Is the goal to survive, is the goal to be strong, etc)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago