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Your Computer Isn't Yours: Apple stores every program Mac users run, and when and where they ran it (sneak.berlin)

submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Edit: Guys I didn't write the headline; the subtitle that I added, I've now fixed tho

Edit: Also, the information about there being no escape is out of date -- here's a quick guide to how to fix the problem in the modern day

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't think you're disagreeing with my point. I get it, you aren't the person who wants to be treated like an idiot when it comes to your computer, but the vast majority of computer users do.

There are many things in your life that you rely on on a daily basis that you never think about the internals of. Maybe your electrical system, your washer and dryer, your car, the roof over your head, the mail system, or the kitchen at a restaurant. All of these things are black boxes that get you what you want without you having to ever think about how it works. Because you don't want manual control over every single thing in your life you interact with, no one has time for that, you couldn't function in modern society.

Your computer is an exception that you have arbitrarily chosen to have intimate control over, but most other people don't. In their perfect world, they don't even know they're using a computer, it's just a magical box that gets them what they want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Respectfully, I am disagreeing with your point.

To be quite blunt about it, I'm tired of everything constantly being dumbed down to accommodate the lowest common denominator, intellectually non-curious "everyman". Every once in a while, people should be expected to reach up, just a little. Otherwise, it's a race to the bottom.

Just because I'm expecting people to reach up doesn't mean no one will be there to help.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Ok, so it sounds like you are in fact arguing that people shouldn't be allowed to run a system that forces updates. And yeah, I think we will have to agree to disagree. I believe people should be free to run whatever they want on their own devices, regardless of my personal beliefs.

Remember, we're not talking about a system that spies on you without telling you, or recommends things to you without you wanting it to, we're specifically talking about a system that says "either let me update myself, or I will stop functioning". And I think that's perfectly reasonable system for a person to want and have.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Most people have absolutely no need to understand how the systems they use operate under the hood.

If anyone does care to "reach up", it's not hard to find the steps to disable it on Google. But 99.9% of people aren't going to do that.