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Now my arch is bloated more than the default ubuntu (lemmy.world)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Every person who comments about “bloat” in their install should be required to preface their post or comment with a full definition of “bloat.”

This shit is obnoxious.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I actually wonder if we could ever agree on a definition?

Maybe:

Bloat: any unnecessary, superfluous software, software package, or feature that is unused or unnecessarily inefficient, and/or uses system resources to an unessasary or unreasonable degree.

What do you guys think? Because then we can still argue about bloat and what reasonable is! And that's what it's all about. Arguing for the sake of it!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Bloat is relative to every person / usage case but I agree with this definition.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I like this. Maybe it needs some words on bloatware that is enforced on users agains their interests?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Anything that's not kernel

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well, also not kernel modules. That counts as bloat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

You're right. And how much of the kernel do we really need, anyway?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So GNU?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just the G actually

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But the G in GNU stands for GNU

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

reminds me of this totally valid URL:

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I mean compared to things like Alpine which use musl and busybox you could consider it bloated yes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Bloat = making your system usable

annoying people who whine about bloat

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

installing more than base, linux, and linux-firmware is bloat.