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America has no Ukraine Plan B except more war (asiatimes.com)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

US foreign policy establishment blindly intent on beating Russia on the battlefield and crushing its economy. Neither will happen

Nah, the US starts war to hurt competing economies and prevent alliances from forming.

The war might be lost but the mission has been accomplished: Europe is fucked economically for now and a generation of Europeans will grow up hating Russia making it unviable to have close relations.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It didn't take a generation for Europe to rebuild relationships with Germany after WWI or WWII. And at some point the frantic propaganda of "Russia is just going to invade everybody if we don't destroy them now!" will fail to materialize.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Different situations, imo. For one, Germany after ww2 benefited immensely from the western propaganda machine, whitewashing it, painting USSR as worse, etc. Additionally, it could be argued Germans never had such a terrible reputation to begin with. Compared to the notably more diverse Russia, which is being slanted as "the other"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

I agree, it's not 1:1. I just don't think capitalist Europe (fresh off being reminded that they are expendable meat for the U.S.) is going to voluntarily wall itself off from a significant, nearby capitalist economy for very long.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Europe has been the biggest casualty of the war without a doubt. On the other hand BRICS strengthened significantly, and now there's a whole alternate global economy forming that's outside of US control. It's entirely possible that the mood in Europe could turn against the US as well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Well i really can't imagine either future president is gonna do a good job at foreign relations. Biden will complete his zionist project and/or Trump will probably do the same except maybe fight with bibi on whose contractors gets to make most of the money (talking out of my ass here) rebuilding the wreckage.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

We started this one?

Fuck! Here we thought it was Russia trying to take over Ukraine