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A little admiration of how easy UI customization is on Firefox, and how shitty Chromium looks.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (40 children)

You never tried to listen for stock Firefox's traffic with Wireshark for sure.

People speak very good thing about Firefox but they like to hide and avoid the shady stuff. Let me give you the un-cesored version of what Firefox really is. Firefox is better than most, no double there, but at the same time they do have some shady finances and they also do stuff like adding unique IDs to each installation.

Firefox does is a LOT of calling home. Just fire Wireshark alongside it and see how much calling home and even calling 3rd parties it does. From basic ocsp requests to calling Firefox servers and a 3rd party company that does analytics they do it all, even after disabling most stuff in Settings and config like the OP did.

I know other browsers do it as well, except for Ungoogled and because of that I’m sticking with it. I would like to avoid programs that need no snitch whenever I open them. ungoogled-chromium + ublock origin + decentraleyes + clearurls and a few others.

Now you’re free to go ahead and downvote this post as much as you would like. I’m sorry for the trouble and mental break down I may have caused by the sudden realization that Firefox isn’t as good and private after all.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (4 children)

That's all true, but why take a modified chromium instead of a modified Firefox?

Also clearurls and decentraleyes would be pretty much useless with Firefox and uBlock Origin.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

That’s all true, but why take a modified chromium instead of a modified Firefox?

Because chromium rendering is better than Firefox's and I personally like the dev tools better and my usual target audience in dev uses Chrome. I have LibreWolf as the secondary browser but I don't see me ever liking the way Firefox renders the web.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Because chromium rendering is better than Firefox

Got any examples of popular websites that render better on Chrome?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

I personally prefer Firefox's rendering, or even Edge's old and long deprecated EdgeHTML (Trident fork) renderer.

IME Chrome performs way too much antialiasing on graphics that are not to scale, and their default font hinting technique doesn't match Windows or even common Linux distro defaults.

It feels a lot like the enhanced speed and performance come from the shortcuts taken in the renderer, akin to Safari... except that Safari also opts to just refuse implementing new APIs and draft specs.

Text heavy sites in particular are not really that nice to read in Chrome for me personally.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago

Usually it’s not about entire websites, it’s the small detail like the font rendering smoothness and a few others.

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