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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Baldwin is responsible as an executive producer (along with whomever else was producing). It's obvious the armourer was out of her depth and should've never been hired. Not saying she doesn't bear any responsibility, but if you as an employer cut corners to save money, and someone dies because of that, there should be consequences.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's not what they're arguing though. Read the article. They're arguing he physically pulled the trigger.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I tend to assume an actor's idea of executive producer is doing coke in his trailer and making a phone call before filming.

To be fair, I also assume that's what real executive producers do, minus the filming.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

She learned how to be an armourer from her dad and it seems like he was the one who provided her a live round. She had no idea what she was doing, he's a bad armourer and a bad parent who raised and taught another bad armourer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I don't disagree that he may be civilly liable for the safety conditions in general on the set. I just don't think that his role in this particular case amounts to criminal negligence. From what I have heard, he had every reason to think that his weapon was safe to handle and use. In order to be guilty of manslaughter, you have to act with gross negligence, meaning that you know the risk of harm to another due to your action is real and significant and yet you choose to do the action anyway. In this particular case, he would have reasonably believed that the risk in his actions was essentially none at all.

The negligence was primarily on the armourer and secondarily on the guy who was meant to confirm the armourer (the assistant director? I can't recall), both of whom failed in their basic due diligence and assured the crew and cast that the firearm was safe when it was not.