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I don't care if anyone has a Xiaomi, Oneplus, Samsung, etc. Each brand is using a modified version of Android, and they chose to be compatible with each other. But for example the "blue vs green bubble" drama is a thing specifically because of Apple locking their unsuspecting users into a closed ecosystem. And it sure isn't Android's fault for not being compatible with it.

The more power a company like this gains, the worse will it be for the whole industry.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

i think the ire is because Apple fans believe it without questioning it, like flat earth believers being told that by a religious leader.

Sweeping generalization. What percentage of iPhone users are you suggesting that are like this? How would you even prove that? Marketing might get us to try something but we make up our own minds after that. You'd have to be imagining that the people that line up at the stores for days are actually representative of the iPhone using population. They're the fringe. Are most of us not numb to marketing by now anyway?

Even my apple fan coworker is always trying to convince me to move to IOS, for "new" features, and I have to say dude I have been doing that forever, I would gain nothing by moving to IOS and lose a ton of technical abilities where I use my phone like a PC...but people can't be convinced of what they already believe

Sounds like you made the right choices for you and I'm genuinely glad for you for that. Your issue is in thinking your logic should be everyone else's as well. The difference between us is that I also believe the Android fans chose their phones correctly based on what they prioritized. I have no reason to assume that such huge groups of people dealing with limited resources aren't distributed evenly across a spectrum of being discerning and of being frugal. There's hardcore fans throwing money at them that they don't have and on the other side there are people with plenty of money that just wait till the renewal is up and get the cheapest model and don't care much.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

For example I never walk around convincing people that Android is the best platform. A phone is just a phone. But the majority of Apple and Iphone users want to tell me how great their product is and that I should switch--when the conversation was not about phones. It is like dealing with Evangelical Christians. Now I know from experience that some Christians never speak of their religion to non believers, and some iphone users don'y solicit either, but there is a reason there is a stereotype. Maybe it is not in your circle and you are then actually lucky.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But the majority of Apple and Iphone users

There are over 135 million iPhone users in the US. What's your sample size to be saying that a majority of users want to tell you how great their product is? Are you sure you're not oversampling the loud ones? That is, it's easy to count the people who try to convert you, but how easy is it really to count the people who just don't care? Some of them have likely overheard your conversations about phones and just kept on walking or doing their own thing.

Maybe it is not in your circle and you are then actually lucky.

Is it that I'm lucky or that you're unlucky? Both would shift the window of perception in the same way.

I would suggest that people who want to pretend their decision-making is better than yours (especially regarding personal preference) sound like the type of annoying people that I avoid. Sorry you have to deal with them though! Those people suck whether they're talking about their phones, shoes, cars, clothes, consoles, beer etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

you sure you're not oversampling the loud ones?

Well of course. This is how media and internet is. You get complainers and evangelicals and the folks in between don't care enough to make the effort to weight in.

The original question was why the Ire on IOS users buying a new phone / features. So back to that, it is the loud IOS users that are visible and the ones and the loud android crowd calls out as being sheep.

But yes, unfortunately in my pocket of the world people seem insecure about the amount they paid to Apple and so want to onboard others around them to justify their own purchase through consensus validation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well, fair enough for sure. Let's just both agree that those people suck and I genuinely hope you're enjoying your phone of choice!

Seems like our only disagreement is just how many of the evangelicals there are. I used to do tech support for iPhones about 10 years ago and I'd say maybe one out of every 30 callers or so were the rabid fanboy types you describe. But that sample was skewed too because I was pretty much only talking to people having an issue with their phone. Hardly anyone was an Apple fan after 20 minutes on hold lol

Cheers and good talk!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Agreed. And yeah phone is good, especially now that I moved to GrapheneOS. All the tight security amd privacy settings, minus all the google apps ( those can be Sandbox added to keep Google out of your business). Anyhow, have a good weekend.!!