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YouTube Music team laid off by Google while workers testified to Austin City Council about working conditions::Some workers learned of the YouTube Music layoffs while testifying to the Austin city council about Google's refusal to negotiate with the union.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (58 children)

Cognizant, a professional services company that Alphabet contracted the YouTube Music team through, said in a statement that the workers were let go after their contract ended at its intended date, according to KXAN in Austin.

A spokesperson for Google told Business Insider that Cognizant is responsible for ending the workers' employment, not Google.

"Contracts with our suppliers across the company routinely end on their natural expiry date, which was agreed to with Cognizant," the company said in a statement.

Not sure how much of the fault is from Google's side here since the employees contracted from another company.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (10 children)

At least in the UK, if you work like an employee enough, the court can overrule the technicality of your employment status as a contractor and apply labor law protections.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You have any idea the wide spread feelings on this?

It sounds like that's what we should be doing in more countries,.US.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Oh the US has tried to fix this issue multiple times. The end result was many of us getting laid off after 18 months every time because they couldn't extend our contacts any further by law. There's no reason for a company to convert a contractor if they're not required to.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

that's because they keep going at it from a timeline POV; I believe if they made required work time slots as a limitation against contract work (i.e if you are required to work between x-y daily) this issue would be resolved. There's no real reason for many contract positions to be a static time slot, contractors are supposed to be fully flexible on their own time as long as the end product is correct and within SLA, thd only benefit to fixed scheduling is management level, so I think that would tip the scale onto employee instead of contractor

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

That's really only true for independent contractors, not W2 contract work to be fair. And every 1099 contract I've worked I've always clarified that stipulation in writing. In the interest of working together I do agree to be on daily or semi daily standups to allow progress.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's frustrating when people in turn can't find good medical insurance.

The trade for sometimes higher pay or flexibility in assignments doesn't work when you can't afford insurance or other benefits.

Assuming you were even being paid about permanent positions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yeah it's really frustrating. I'm fortunately at a level where the contracting companies have to provide at least decent benefits to get employees. But contracting sucks. Often you're restricted in what you can do, causing unnecessary delays to getting software done at the rate the company wants.

I've been yelled at by upper management for not doing something I legally wasn't allowed to. No apology when an employee on the call pointed it out of course.

It's a shit show. But my market is fucked right now so I'm about to go get a job at a grocery store or something and figure it out I guess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Good luck to you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Those work situations are the worst. It reminds me of the saying "you can be right, or you can get what you want, but not both".

You can correctly assert your contractor status and correctly point out that you're not legally allowed to do a thing. You're in the right, no doubt, but that doesn't stop an unhappy executive from "letting you go" anyway.

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