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I'm going to eat a burger tonight and think about this post the whole time.
If animals aren't meant to be eaten then why are they made out of food?
Animals are delicious, but so are alot of vegetarian foods too. To try new things i made Saturday vegetarian food day, and ive made some fuckin' tasty veggies. Fuck veggie burgers or shit like that, but like a pizza with a fuck ton of different vegetables is amazing.
But nutritionally, meat always wins.
We've got to take into account that we're omnivore, not carnivore...
you're made out of food. how would you like it if someone slaughtered you and ate you?
i'm just fuckin' with you, I eat meat. but this brings up another topic, if we eat the rich, is it carbon neutral?
What if I told you you can both enjoy meat alternatives and meat, that they aren't mutually exclusive?
You're right, the alternatives are stupid and even dangerous. 390mg of salt in a Beyond burger, compared to about 90 in a real hamburger. And the pretend chicken is even worse.
Come for the fake meat, stay for the hypernatremia.
You do you, hope it tastes delicious!
We need to replace that reasoning with something more precise, abeit less funny:
If animals aren't meant to be eaten, then why can my body digest their meat?
Your body can digest human flesh. Does that infromation make canablism acceptable?
Just because you can doesn't mean you nessecarily mean you should.
Why can your body digest new born babies and dogs? Why can your body sexually violate them? Dumb take. You dont derive ethics from what your body is physically capable of doing.
That escalated quickly...
As quickly as it went off-track...
I've already addressed this very same point on another comment
Nice straw man argument you got yourself there.
I was clearly referring to the digestive system, which is the part of the body that processes food, but as I used the word "body" you found something to latch onto and went off a tangent talking about raping animals and babies (babies specifically, Jesus fucking Christ, what's on your mind, man?).
My point is that our "body" is able to sustain itself on a diet that includes animal meat, out body has evolved to be able to process it.
I never said that we should eat our pets or everything made out of meat. Besides, while I don't share their views, there are cultures where eating dogs or practising cannibalism is common.
Your point is stupid and absolutely includes babies and dogs. You can digest those beings just fine.
'I'm not normalizing eating babies,' proceeds to normalize eating babies
This is an ad hominem fallacy:
Oh, an this too:
Also, nice try with the straw man fallacy again! You're really focused on including babies and dogs to invalidate my argument, when I never brought those up myself in the first place. Sure, I addressed them on my subsequent replies after you started with it.
We choose which meats or animals to eat. Just because our bodies can digest certain things doesn’t mean we should engage in unethical behavior. It’s called having self-control and moral principles, a detail you seem be consistently ignoring.
Will you stop, for a fucking second, with straw man bullshit? Or you won't, because that's your only bullshit resource? Tell me where, in this following fucking phrase did I use the word babies? I repeat: you are the who brought them up in the first place. If you're projecting on me your repressed thoughts of eating or fucking babies, that ain't my fault.
Cannibalism doesn't implicate eating babies, that's on you. Also, acknowledging the existence of a practice doesn't mean to normalize it.
Let's take out of the equation your fallacies for a moment: Beef, pork and chicken are part of my diet, because my body can digest and sustain on them. Why shouldn't I eat those?
Go back to school. Arguments lead to logical conclusions. Your point is stupid. You are worried about framing in discourse far more than the argument. Just use that brain power of yours to reformat the argument minus the framing you don't like. Such as, 'if anything digestible is morally permissable to digest, that would include babies, which you probably wouldn't morally permit, so perhaps you should find a more useful argument. Babies have meat too.' There, that better? You shouldn't eat animals (or 99.9999999% of them) because they are conscious - entailing varying degrees of thoughts, feelings, social dynamics, and the obvious capacity to suffer - many animals of which exhibit higher degrees of consciousness than a newborn human.
And jfc my dude you responded to the idea of babies being eaten with 'besides, some people are cannibals.' I didn't strawman. You actually said that.
If you still can't figure out how 'my body can digest stuff so its a-okay to eat literally anything digestible' is incredibly dumb even after I've told you where that logic leads then just don't participate in discourse at all and we'll help you get through life since you can't do it on your own. Are you done with the intellectualy dishonest semantics or no?