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I still don't understand why this was a better idea than a train.
technofetishism--if there's anything local politicians love it's sounding hip and getting Cool Headlines over boring but practical technology that actually works
Some of our politicians in Germany love the idea of flying taxis and monorails but "luckily" they don't like actually spending money on infrastructure so instead they opt to do nothing at all.
Buzzwords sell. It's the same shit in corporate America when they went bonkers for blockchain a few years ago, only to have all that money thrown into "research" flushed down the toilet. Like gee that money should have gone into a higher corporate tax payout versus a fancy headline for shareholders.
Same thing here, but with politicians wanting something buzzy for their next election.
Trains wouldn't work on Mars (surface), too dusty.
I thought Las Vegas was on Earth, but I could be wrong as I haven't been there (to Las Vegas I mean, I've been to Earth).
Anyway, if you're already building a tunnel, you might as well put a train in it, even on Mars.
I think that's where the Hyperloop fits in: on Earth, it isn't practical to keep the required level of vacuum, but it would be quite easy on Mars. At the same time, they need to perfect the tunnel digging process, and cars are the excuse to do it on Earth.
No one is colonizing anything.
https://youtu.be/U9YdnzOf4NQ?si=QxA_La0J6UVEiMZv
Kind of ironic that video has an ad for a "mental hygiene" app... when a good first step would be not watching that sort of videos... but let's go point by point:
It's a risky plan, but still a plan.
Wow! You really believe all the lies Musk says? This is the same guy who has been promising 'full software driving' next year for nearly a decade, fantasizing about downloading human memory engrams, insisting that hyperloop is 'not so hard' and says things like 'I know more about manufacturing than anyone else alive'.
How much knowledge does it take to realize that 100 people per starship is simply impossible? There simply isn't enough room. And read your statement about underground dwellings and sunlight times together to see how they're incompatible. Musk isn't saying all these because he's a dreaming visionary. He's saying these to trick other rich people into giving him more money. It has the same vibes as the monorail song.
It's also the same guy deciding to build reusable self-landing rockets, or place 40,000 satellite in orbit.
He's a working visionary. Some of his visions are shit, doesn't mean all of them are.
The problem with people who "know it's impossible", is things like not realizing Starship is a ground-to-orbit delivery system, or that living in a cave is not the same as never leaving the cave, or the issue with not having access to power sources for extended periods of time in places where air supply depends on it.
LOL! SpaceX doesn't do those things because of him. They do it despite him. They even have special procedures and meetings to stoke master Elon's ego and trick him into agreeing with them. Elon is a fictional visionary, not a working one. It doesn't take half decent knowledge of physics to recognize the nonsense he spouts.
What absurd opening logic. The first person is a rocket engineer. He doesn't just play Kerbel Space, he designs rockets.
The schematics for Starship allows for at best 15-20 people. Supplies are a thing. The ability for humans to travel & survive for this distance is not established at all, nor is the ability to build structures, grow food, supply air & water, etc
This confident nonsense is like discussing reality with an Iraq War Cheerleader Circa 2004-2007 .
There's no plan. To get to the Moon, Starship itself requires ~-15 refueling launches using a method that doesn't exist, despite the taxpayers giving the company 300+ million dollars to develop it.
It's a ragebait video.
No point in continuing it then.