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The Sept. 6 missile strike on Kostiantynivka in eastern Ukraine was one of the deadliest in the country in months, killing at least 15 civilians and injuring more than 30 others. The weapon’s payload of metal fragments struck a market, piercing windows and walls and wounding some victims beyond recognition.

Less than two hours later, President Volodymyr Zelensky blamed Russian “terrorists” for the attack, and many media outlets followed suit.

But evidence collected and analyzed by The New York Times, including missile fragments, satellite imagery, witness accounts and social media posts, strongly suggests the catastrophic strike was the result of an errant Ukrainian air defense missile fired by a Buk launch system.

Ukrainian authorities initially tried to prevent journalists with The Times from accessing the missile debris and impact area in the strike’s immediate aftermath. But the reporters were eventually able to get to the scene, interview witnesses and collect remnants of the weapon used.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Okay well by your logic, If Russia and Ukraine hadn't been separated by the destruction of the Soviet Union, the conditions for this war would never have been set, which means that actually America holds the blame for all the deaths in this war, in addition to the record number of deaths caused by the dissolution of the USSR. Not to mention all the Nazi sleeper cells we've left all over Europe to create just such a situation- ever hear of Operation Gladio?

Frankly, if youre going to argue that the government with more control of a situation is responsible for every death, a good-faith extrapolation of that belief would have you shouting death to America with your whole heart, because the world military hegemon is responsible for more deaths around the world every single week than the entirety of this meat grinder war. The normal conditions of Pax Americana are more wretchedly gore-soaked and evil than anything we are taught to pearl clutch and grandstand about when other countries do them.