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People from a minority/dying culture, how do you feel about it? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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There are many cultures around the world that are suppressed by majoritarianism. They have to face challenges like forced assimilation, language discrimination and refusal to acknowledgement of their unique identity. In fact, many cultures have been identified by UNESCO, that will soon cease to exist - either that they're vulnerable, or completely extinct. How do you, as a minority, feel, knowing that your entire identity will cease to exist in a few decades? Do you have a sense of camaraderie towards other minorities from other parts of the world, say, the Ainu people, or the Brahui pastoralist?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He has a point that if he has to learn your language, it makes sense that you have to learn his. You are not better or worse.

Also from my little understanding of French there are no insults there.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Already covered:

So you speak French and work in Quebec. Fine. Why do I need French in the prairies? Do you see how this goes? The demand for English is market demand because it’s the dominate language in Canada, the US, UK, and the international language of business and science. The vast majority of demand for French in Canada (outside of Quebec) is an artificial construct forced on the rest of the country. It’s completely artificial. There’s no natural demand or desire. But it’s forced on everyone and on to job requirements. You’re trying to confuse it with all these other things trying to make it sound like ‘both sides’.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Do you choose market mechanisms everywhere or only where it gives your side advantage?

Also one would think that job requirements are a result of market demand too.

And if it's state jobs, then that's because people you work for speak English or French, and you have to be able to communicate with them in either English or French if they so desire.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Funny because Quebec people love French requirements because it's their advantage. That's why he won't entertain the thought experiment of having to learn Ukrainian, because he has no advantage there. If I spoke Ukrainian, uni or bilingual, advantage or not, I know it would be bonkers to force Ukrainian on the rest of the country.

No, the job requirements are because French is forced onto the country. It's artificial. That's the whole point.

There are very very very few French speakers West of Quebec. So no there are very very very few French customers if we call it that. The demand isn't there. Again it's artificial. That's the whole point of what I'm saying. It's an artificial construct.

As I said at the start, in BC there's more market demand for Mandarin than French, uni and bi. But the freaking premier got crucified simply for pointing that out.

Nor is it just government jobs as I said. It's all jobs, in every field, even school applications, it's everywhere. All artificial.

Really I covered everything you just asked. You're just ignoring it, so if you continue on ignoring I'm not going to bother responding.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But the freaking premier got crucified simply for pointing that out.

Which is the same as demand.

Really I covered everything you just asked.

I'm sad to say it, but you have reading comprehension problems. Maybe that's my bad English, but not sure I could take complaints in that regard seriously here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Which is the same as demand.

What? In BC the demand is for Mandarin. There is no demand for French. But French is the language that's required in many positions in BC. I have no idea what you're trying to say. Ditto for your second part.