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ProtonMail voluntarily offers Assistance for Real-Time Surveillance (web.archive.org)
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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From 2019, but still [this fullstop signals not only the end of that sentence, but also the end of this statement]. And here [those two words indicate that new information/context is being added; it is being indicated that we now no longer talk about the article, which the uneditorialized post title references and the post link leads to] something a bit more recent about the glorious “swiss privacy” [this makes it further clear that the following is about swiss privacy in general and not about Proton] https://www.republik.ch/2024/01/09/der-bund-ueberwacht-uns-alle

key points

[they were added because the main article is about Proton and written in english and because OP assumed that most in here are unable to read german and care less about general swiss privacy than they do care about Proton]

  • New reporting based on documents and court records shows that since 2017, the internet traffic of Swiss citizens has been massively monitored and read when it crosses borders, which happens routinely even for communication within Switzerland.

  • The intelligence service's claims that purely domestic Swiss internet traffic is collected are false, given how internet routing actually works. Traffic flows across borders dynamically, not through static "cables" as claimed.

  • All data is stored and searched, including retrospectively, meaning the intelligence service builds an ever growing haystack of private communication to dig through. This includes communication from journalists and lawyers that should be protected.

  • In 2023, steps were taken to expand monitoring further by requiring more Swiss internet providers to enable access to their infrastructure, including providers that don't directly deal with cross-border traffic. This contradicts previous claims about how the monitoring would work.

  • Critics argue this invalidates assurances given earlier by the government and intelligence officials and constitutes mass surveillance that violates civil liberties. There are plans in 2024 to revise the intelligence law again, possibly to retroactively legalize monitoring practices already occurring.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

sure, but also

„We kill people based on metadata.“ Michael Hayden, NSA

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What does this mean? That people are targetted based on who they're talking to instead of what they're saying?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

basically.

even minimal metadata for example from signal contains

Message dates and times

Message senders and recipients (via phone number identifiers)

From these 2 pieces of information, its possible to build social graphs: who talked to who, and when they did it. Also, who's in a group chat with who else.

https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/master/why_not_signal.md#why-not-signal

(worth to read in full)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

OFF WITH HIS HEAD