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Went through the same path and managed to stop vaping at 0mg after a while. Tried many times to stop smoking, and vaping was the only thing that did it. I'm guessing vaping flavor ate mostly illegal because governments weren't maming enough money out of it.
Yeah, sounds like I had about the same experience as you: before successfully quitting via vaping, I had been trying basically every other method including prescription medications for 10 of the 18 years that I smoked. Nothing worked until vaping.
More a case of Big Tobago still having a lot of politicak influence (read: give out a lot of bribes to politicians) AND normally benevolent organizations such as the main anti-cancer foundation here in Denmark rely on sales of traditional cessation products for significant portions of their funding.
The latter is even more fucked up than the former IMO: organizations whose sole purpose is minimizing and researching cures for cancer were the main opponents to the best tool to eliminate the most common cause of cancer.
They indirectly CAUSED cancer because otherwise they'd have less money to do their great work of helping PREVENT and treat cancer.
If only they and vape makers had agreed to the same profit sharing deal as the traditional cessation product makers, vaping would probably be fully legal for adults with no unreasonable restrictions AND more effectively kept away from kids like the traditional ones are. Might even be the most used method, since it's the most effective one.
Vaping is mostly illegal because tobacco companies have to switch. They have a lot of production facilities. Those need to be tuned down, closed or converted. That would cost them a lot of money. So it's best to slow that down with laws.
Tobacco companies make the laws. If anything related to them is outlawed or regulated or taxed, it is because they want it that way.
Things that are outlawed become regulated. Things that are regulated can be made expensive. It takes money to compete in a regulated market. It's a long-game. And tobacco knows how to play a long-game.
My guess: They'll wait until more small companies pop up, then buy them all, and then kill tobacco, which is much less profitable than producing vape stuff. And then they'll triple the price.