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[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I decided to go in the other direction. My two boys got their phones at 7 and 8. I put parental controls on it and never allowed them install apps. Most annoying is the extensive use of Youtube so far, but on the other hand both of them are speaking English and have good grades. The usage is limited to 2 hours a day. And at 9pm the phone locks itself.

However, I talked to them about social media and blocked Whatsapp, Instagram etc. I still need to talk more to them of course, because it's a risk for adults, too. They are individuals and I respect that they need to have fun after school. And I want them not to be "cool" online, but generally be happy with their lifes.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Our experience was that iPhone parental controls are broken beyond belief. They basically don’t work. Searching online I’m not the only one with that problem. Maybe it’s better on Android.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

On Android, I'm using Google Family Link. Pretty much locks down and takes control of the entire phone and let's you manage it all remotely, it's akin to attaching a Windows computer to a centrally managed Active Directory domain.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Screen Time on iOS is proper road kill. It’s not clear, it’s slow to update and it does not obey screen time restrictions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Yes, I use family link, too. The only annoying thing are general age restrictions. I am the parent and I need Element.IO for my kids that is rated 18. It doesn't let me install it, even when it's our private chat server. Fuck those people who make decisions for parents.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's not that they basically don't work, they pretty much don't work full stop. Most of my experience with them was in ios 12 but even in 16 they're still crap

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

And Apple know, of course they do. But there isn’t any profit in letting anyone use your phone less.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Honestly I think this is the way to go. You can only avoid it for so long. Rather than trying to stop them it's probably more effective teaching them control and how to navigate this flood of potentially dangerous influences.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Yes, if you always need to tell your kid what to do, it's all your job. Teach them to think like you think. It saves a lot of work and is less stressful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And what was the result? Did that work?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Depends what you mean by "it worked". Of course the kids play too much games and watch too much YouTube. But at least I have kids that are happy and I really have fun with.

It's also easier to tell them what I want when I really need them to do something. What I want to avoid is to have kids that don't have respect towards their parents.

I guess it's also my attitude. I really like to come back from work and have fun with my kids and see them happy. I know many parents who rather try to get their kids to sleep as soon as possible to have time for themselves.