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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I'm violently against every attempt to try and weaken e2ee. In my mind doing so would be equivalent to telling people they're no longer allowed to meet in private and have one on one discussions.

There's just this one issue with this that causes some doubt for me. CSAM. Yes, think about the childer and so on, I know.. This is however still a real issue that I have personally encountered multiple times. I use certain encrypted platforms to chat with strangers anonymously and there's a significant userbase there spreading this content. And I don't mean provocative instagram pics but the kind of content that leaves you with zero doubt about what you just saw.

Do we just accept this uncomfortable trade-off? Obviously there are other ways for these people to get caught aswell than monitoring their private discussions which in my mind is kind of even worse than what they're doing (unless they're creating that content aswell) but it's just a fact that if the conversations truly are 100% secure then there's nothing that's going to stop this behaviour. I guess there's nothing stopping them from meeting face to face and trading printed physical photos aswell but I don't know.. This feels different and I'm really struggling to figure out how I feel about that.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Except that's not really the trade-off. There will still be means to secure communication and people who have an incentive to do so will go the extra mile to make sure they won't be spied upon.

But we've opened ~~the~~ another door to spy on the general population, because average Joe won't care. Another big leap towards total control, total surveillance.

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