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Shell Is Immediately Closing All Of Its California Hydrogen Stations | The oil giant is one of the big players in hydrogen globally, but even it can't make its operations work here.::The oil giant is one of the big players in hydrogen globally, but even it can't make its operations work here. All seven of its California stations will close immediately.

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[–] [email protected] 134 points 7 months ago (55 children)

Looking forward to the upcoming Toyota announcement that they believe in the future of hydrogen more than ever

[–] [email protected] 62 points 7 months ago (50 children)

Toyota, and Japan as a whole, are in a tricky situation with their electric grid. It's been developed separately by nine different companies in each region; the southern regions use 60 Hz supply cycles, where-as the northern regions (including Tokyo Electric) use 50 Hz. Add to this the populations reluctance for nuclear power after Fukushima, and you get a very fragile supply grid with limited capacity. Toyota is gunning hard for Hydrogen because Japan itself can't support EVs and for some reason it doesn't want to/can't manufacture both.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 7 months ago (43 children)

Okay, but if they don't have the electricity for EVs they definitely don't have enough electricity to waste 2/3 of it turning it into hydrogen and back.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Over 75% of Japanese energy is imported under current circumstances and they have a reluctance to use geothermal for social and economic reasons. Wind is another good choice but they're restricted in where they can deploy it by social and economic concerns

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

And this is the same country that wanted to mine cobalt off the nearby ocean floor a decade ago. What a strange world.

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