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I've resisted adopting the phrase out of pocket, but it actually is perfectly reasonable to use here. What the fuck, Greg?
Did he pay for expenses out of his own money? Is he away from his usual station? I have a feeling this means I'm old.
Let's just repurpose existing phrases, nobody can stop us. House sure is watching the bottom line, huh?
"Out of pocket" meaning unruly, inappropriate, or out of control appears to have usage at least as far back as the 1940s.
In what of part of the English speaking world is this phrase used this way. I've only ever understood "out of pocket" to mean, to use immediately available resources to pay for something.
Can you provide a source?
https://archive.org/details/cassellsdictiona00gree/page/884/mode/2up I've seen several sources pointing to this particular dictionary, but I'm not familiar enough with Internet archive lending to pull the specific page. I also haven't found any primary sources from that time period to correlate.
Its much more recent, but 50 Cent used it in a number of songs, including 2005's "in my hood"
Sorry, the claim that "out of pocket" has this alternate, non-financial definition going back to the 1940s is entirely unsupported.
There are four references to "out of pocket" in the book, according to Google Books. All of them have to do with money. https://books.google.com/books/about/Cassell_s_Dictionary_of_Slang.html?id=5GpLcC4a5fAC
If you look at the 50 Cent lyrics in context, they're saying that crack money has slowed down, so the "bitch" is paying out of pocket. https://genius.com/50-cent-in-my-hood-lyrics
Edit: on reflection, I'm not sure I understand the lyrics well enough to say which way he means "out of pocket" to be taken.
Meaning the germans ruined it for us!
Yeah he's been really over the moon lately
Lit fo sho
He's really circling back on this one, I gotta say.
What?! My mother was a saint!~ Oh, the other repurposing
It's 2024 though, can you really be out of pocket anymore?
Pretty sure they meant "out of hand"
It depends on how old you are.
When I was a kid it meant unavailable, now it means out of line.