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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The big instances are bad enough but big communities are absolute killer of decentralisation

When you go to /c/books on your server, you don't see an agglomeration of all /c/books on all servers of the fediverse. You only see that server's /c/books, if it even has one.

This is a fatal flaw of lemmy which concentrates power enormously into the hands of the owners.

The default view should be all /c/books on all federated servers, with an easy way to filter only local posts.

Lemmy will turn into reddit if this is not quickly rectified.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I kind of get where you're coming from, but to me it sounds like you're looking for a different experience than what Lemmy is designed for. It seems you are more interested in aggergating all posts about specific topics (like "books"), and strongly limiting the effect of moderation (as nobody would have final say about how to moderate an entire topic). If I correctly understood the experience you're interested in, then for sure the design of Lemmy will not match that.

I don't think it's fair to describe this as a fatal flaw, though. Lemmy is not built around the idea of generic, "ownerless" topics, instead, it's built around communities with clear owners. We have decentralization at the admin and infrastructure level (as in, a single admin does not control the entire network), but this does not really mean we also need to have it at individual community level.

IMO it's totally fine that different people create different communities with extremely similar purposes. The entire internet as a whole also works like this - the internet itself is decentralized, but at the same time people can create different websites with very similar purposes (and even domains!), and it works out fine. For example, it's totally possible for there to exist a news.com, news.co.uk, news.ee, news.fi, etc. Imagine if whenever you navigated to news.fi with your browser, it would also automatically insert content from all the other news websites of all possible domains - it doesn't really seem like a useful feature, but that's kind of analogous to what you're suggesting for Lemmy at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

When you go to /c/books on your server, you don’t see an agglomeration of all /c/books on all servers of the fediverse. You only see that server’s /c/books, if it even has one.

What prevents from visiting /c/books@anotherserver?

Genuinely asking, because this is one of the core concepts of Lemmy and federation

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I already posted to anotherserver/c/books and no one ever saw it.

Posting anywhere but biggestinstance/c/biggestcommunity is functionally the same as not posting at all.

And of course, the owners of biggestinstance/c/biggestcommunity believe in everything you don't believe in and they really don't like you in particular.

Welcome to new reddit, same as old reddit

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I already posted to anotherserver/c/books and no one ever saw it.

Did you promote that community on [email protected] and other promotion communities? Did you actively post on your new community, to attract users to your new one?

I'm going to take two examples I personally had

  • I'm not a fan of having all discussions on LW, so even if [email protected] was the most active one, we decided with a few others to start animating [email protected]. It is now the most active community on that topic.
  • I like the show "the Office". [email protected] is the historical community, but as some people are not fans of lemmy.ml, we moved to [email protected], which is now the most active community on this topic.

I guess that shows that community takeover is possible, and does not need additional tools, just some time and dedication.