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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Distance. An hour commute or a 20 minute trip to the grocery store. We killed walkable neighborhoods so now here we are. Trapped.

[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can do what I did and move to another country. It just takes a lot of time, work, and money to get there (though money can accelerate the former two, in some cases).

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'd love to. And the brain drain is already beginning. College is cheaper and just as good over seas. That's always the first stage because you never get all the kids back.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Open your own grocery store. Or allow others to do so.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would if I could. But I can't beat Walmart prices an hour away on Transit.

[–] Grabthar@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's why you don't see 15 minute cities anymore. Capitalism already figured out that a few large stores allow you to hire more efficient numbers of employees, buy more for less, stock better variety, pass along some of the savings to customers and still make more profit than building lots and lots of repeated commercial infrastructure throughout residential areas. A return to that model would require more employees in low paying service jobs, and would sacrifice lower prices and better variety. Ironically, it would be far faster to use a car to skip from store to store to look for the best deals and the specific brands you want. I suppose we could also get rid of capitalism at the same time, but I'm not holding my breath. As much as I like the idea of walkable infrastructure, it comes at a cost that I am not sure many would be willing to pay.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

It's very weird that it works all over Europe, but for some reason it's too expansive for America. It's almost like it's not an inevitable course of actions really actually.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But we can't have 15 minute cities because...that's tyranny somehow?

[–] ByteWizard@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

15 minute cities are about as organic as "two weeks to flatten the curve". There's a reason they don't exist, it's not a practical idea. Just like every other idea children come up with.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That used to be the model. Go look at old pictures. Those people were not walking hours to get groceries.

[–] ByteWizard@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago

Correct, they'd use a horse or a mule. Cars are an improved horse. Walking and biking are hobbies at best.

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, except all of those old European cities and newer Soviet built ones had (and in most cases still have) everything close to 15 minutes away.